Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

Oh, so we start with Ms. sadist big boobs? I don't really like her so biased may present. I'll try to be as objective as possible though.

BB is one of the rarer rainbow I see in helper team and obviously I don't have her. I'll try grading in 3 topics before giving a final verdict then.

1. Raw stat: Her stat is great, everything is higher than normal except her speed. 430 spd can break the team composition easily with average speed of helper team around 550-600.
Grading: C+
2. Skill: Normal AOE you can see everywhere and nothing to fancy nor shabby. It's not exactly too fitting for her selfish abilities, which will discuss in the next topic.
Grading: C+
3. Abilities: Her abilities are rather selfish, immense atk boost to herself and another lucky girl who will get it. Ideally we want it on the girl with boss killer skill that can deal weakness damage as well, but you have to bet on 25% chance to let it drop on the girl you want. The skill act is common but good. The atk boost with no. of pests x15% is good on paper. But most of the time the hardest boss will appeared solo or two, hampered the maximum potential of this skill. Def boost is like ugly duckling for her and since she's not fitting to counter team made this skill... well... just there? Not exactly helping.
Grading: C-

Final Verdict: C She's definitely a great member as big shot in AOE team but aside from that she seems really lacking for me. Not to mention that I'm not a fan of buff on random girls too. The abilities synergy is jumble and messed up with the stray def boost.

I'll go for Cattleya, since I have her.

TP
In term of TP she is one of the low TP rainbow in this game with 29920 TP @ her full bloom+full affect.
Compare with Sakura has 31008 & Hanamizuki/Dogwood has 31540.
What make her TP very low is her HP. That's upset me quite a bit.

Speed
She has 565 speed, not speedy not slow.

Active skill
Her active skill is on par with most other rainbow that have all target active skill.

Passive Skill
Her passive offence buff is strong with +40% atk for 3 party member.
She also has very good skill use buff with +18% skill dmg for all member & 1.2 increase activation rate.
Only passive that make me feel weird with her is the increase 50% light gauge skill when start the map.
It's doesn't match other passive much.

Overall
In real combat Cattleya is very fragile, she may K.O. easy in all kind of extreme map when get only severals hit.
If player really want to use her as main in every map, they have to amps her well + have good jewelry for her.

If player not aiming to create speedy party, Cattleya can fit in team easy.
Also her all target active skill do help a lot in term of AOE.

She's can produce a lot of offence power for the party with her buff, if player put her in right place.
Even the light gauge buff is weird but if you look for free 50% light gauge she can also help.

In my opinion her rate before buff campaign start is B.
But since the dev start to buff a lot of girls so now her rate will be C+.

Why?
Like I said she's very fragile, difficult to keep her alive in extreme map.
She can go down is some high difficulty normal map too, if player unlucky.

Also her 40% atk buff is random target buff.
And right now we have some girls that can buff 30% - 35% atk for all party member and other stack atk buff.
Do we still need a random 40% atk buff?

BUT! dev going to buff her soon™, so she will be a lot stronger.
She will get buff both her TP and passive, I'm very sure about it.

I suggest throwing in a link so we can view the girl without the need for prolonged navigation.
As for the unreg people - I said this many times as well as in in other game threads. If someone cant be bothered to take a little time to register, while they can still post comments, but considering the zero investment form their side just ignore them for the purpose of polls etc.

twilight - I thought we are discussing all 3 girls in an order even if you dont have her. I mean I will comment on comment on Denbro and Cat as well, but not immediately.

We can take it slowly to give everyone a chance to comment on each girl. I suggest Wutan always drops a comment with the picture of the next girl in discussion after the first one is concluded and no one responds to her anymore. Then we discuss the next one, wait till everyone who wants to jump in has a chance, and move one. (doesnt mean we wait endlessly for everyone, but few days for each girl seems about right.)

Wutan, this being your thread I think you should be the one to call the shots with a comment including picture and all when moving onto the next girl in question after giving everyone a chance to respond, since otherwise it will become slightly chaotic

As for Black Bacara.

Rating:
I think she is B- or C+. Her stats are above avarage, only her defense is on the weak side, which is odd in combination with her Def skill.
Her HP and attack are pretty high. Speed is mediocre/on the slower side, but nothing that cant be fixed with other girls own speed.

Stats and Skills:
As for the skills. She does offer a solid damage buff. Her skill is standard 2.2 AoE with 24% chance on L1 up to 34%. So the usual.

As for the skills I can see her shining in two setups - full damage setup with girls buffing their raw damage and skill act.
Or in a team where girls have Guts/Def buffing abylities to guard etc. Since there are some other knights who being offensively tailored do still have these (Mace loli Chan in my helper team for example. You wouldnt believe how often that Guts pulled me through broken fights, and no one cant complain about her not being an Offense centered girl.)
So technically you could go with high damage, vanilla team with defense buffs as one of the abilities, maybe even guts for that matter, resulting into a unexpectedly tough DMG team, that can wither good amounts of damage simply through high Guard/Guts rate, but still dishes out above average damage.

Design: I know this is not part of what should be discussed, but if we are rating girls I think the overall feel and aesthetics are a major part of each knight. There are girls for each of us, that dont have skills we want, but we choose them for Waifu reasons. Thus I shall include it, and honestly I think peope should consider it as well, since this is Waifu simulator game after all, so discussing the design of the Waifus is a part of ranking :P

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Now as for other aspects such as art and story. I dont have Black Boobara so cant comment on voice or story. The art is amazing as far as the amount of tiny details go. Sprite is also fairly cute, reminds me of a bubble head thing you put into your car.
Now for the negatives of her design - I will not factor the boobs. She is after all Black Boobara, and there are some people who like that stuff.
She is fairly nice and thick but not fat so you have something to grab onto.
I am not a fan of that pale purple skin of hers though... what the heck, did she fall into a Galaxy ray disco chamber ? As far as we know I believe she is human, not some demi-human like elf chan, neko, inu or foxy chan, or as I recently learned an Oni like tiger lily, so that skin makes little sense, other than the artist own expression.

Consistency is the name of the game for her design, All 3 artworks are nice, though personally the Evo art is pure shit due to her expressien and the way she poses with her boobs. i do appreciate her Bloom art softening her facial features a tiny bit and showing her actually smiling. My favorite though is the basic first form. While I like my "sexi" as any other guy, I think the market is oversaturated with "too slutty". The basic artwork shows her clad In a yukata-ish attire and while shows some skin it keeps it all nicely packed for your imagination to explore. Classy is the word.
Compared to some 6* girls whose artwork is so simple, stale and just boring due to pale color palette and absolute lack of any details I think BB is definitely up there as far as quality and painting skill goes.

Voice, Scene & overall Vibe:
Now as I said, I have not seen her scene, nor heared her voice. However bunch of people call her sadist. Though some did say thats not entirely true and its more like she simply has a strong Ram like personality. Cant judge that honestly. Dont really like S&M shit myself so that would be a turn off for me.

Ultimate Design
As for the design of her Active skill - considering she belongs to the games Early characters where compared to some of the never girls those ultimates just look bland and boring (the devs sure did progress with their skill as far as making the effects more epic over time.), never the less I think it fits her theme, isnt completely unmemorable, and that slow motions backwards jump she does during it is pretty funny... you know Max Paine and all that old school hollywood stuff

Conclusion:
As much as I hated this girl in my early days, I have been warming up to her slowly and even had a moment or two of temptation to pick her up with a ticket or coins. I think she can work well in several setups, and even if not included in those, she still can pull her own way rather reliably.
If you like what she has going on, she is in the reliable spectrum, nothing surprisingly amazing, but nothing to disappointing either, as far as 6* go. In one word: Solid

I want to share my real experience on the girl.
So I decide to go for Cattleya since I have her and use her as main in the past.
But I will comment on BB soon™ after I study her a bit.

Sorry for being late but I can't really add much that hasn't already been said. What I cay say is that she was my 2nd rainbow early on from the first 5* ticket purchased using in game currency. For a new player, she's a great asset as she triggered her skill very often and when it hit, it hit those pests hard. So she's a solid B in my book.

Also, I know it's not supposed to be a factor... but the waifu status of this beautiful oppai kunoichi... well, I think this sums it up best: World Class

Man, so many cool forum ideas like Tactica, Tier List

but Man, I can't join coz I don't use abilitgies or plan out shit or stats - heck I dropped out of high school so my math is bad LOL

I just hang out

Originally Posted by HungryHunter

Man, so many cool forum ideas like Tactica, Tier List

but Man, I can't join coz I don't use abilitgies or plan out shit or stats - heck I dropped out of high school so my math is bad LOL

I just hang out

OFF TOPIC RAMBLING, you have been warned
please forgive good old Myrdin mofu:3 ~

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Math is not end all be all man

I suck at math, but am good in other subjects. Skills are also important, and if you are street wise and have good common sense, intuition and personality thats also very important and something, people dont usually factor into the overall "education and intelligence".
And yet many times its these traits that allow you to find better solution or outsmart the "educated".

Dont`cha ever put yourself down just because you dont have a piece of paper. Sure its good to have it, but in this day and age there are so many worthless people coming out of Universities, the market is over saturated with skill less "smartass" individuals. Its because of that, a skilled, hard working man, who might not have a degree but is smart and willing to hustle can make things happen. And once he get this chance, make something out of himself.

So always believe in yourself even if shit is tight, stay sharp and when the opportunity comes go for it. And most importantly, keep positive attitude and respect yourself, this is the biggest thing people who succeed and move in life will tell you. I know this from personal experience starting from bottom and climbing up, job by job, skill by skill. Gathering those experiences as I go and becoming more interesting and perspective as potential employee each time I was forced to change a job.

So I am sure that you too can come up with some good ideas about the Girls in question and how to use them.
Hunter my bro stay strong and keep a healthy positive attitude !
*I might be a straight white dude so someone might complain about me calling you a bro, but what makes me consider someone a brother is more than just skin color, ethnicity or religion. It is the character, values and mutual respect. Unless of course you dont like me calling you that, in which case I wont

Damn but I digress, went off on one of my ramblings, sorry lads I know this is pure off topic, but I cant help myself.
HH bro, you look like a good guy, stay strong and keep up the good work (and feel free to contribute, every oppinion is appreciated and I am sure not just me but others as well will gladly read what you have written )*thumbsup)

I prefer doing math with my PC.

OK. let's finish the first girls pack. I'll do a little more short version.

Black Bacara
**I don't have heron DMM, so it's only verdict on paper**
With 1.2 activation rate make every party welcome her.
Her atk buff very strong and more stronger with more enemy in battle.
Also she has def buff + guts, that's make her more durable even she has low defence.

She can nuke bunch of enemy easy with her AOE active skill.

One big down side for her is her speed, only 430.
Very slow in my taste.

Paper only verdict : C

Dendrobium
**I have her on DMM, she's one of my very first rainbow**
Denbrobium has very power 2 atk buff, make her very destructive up front.
But what make her powerfull is other 2 passive she has.
Other 2 passive make her use her active skill for 2 times in 1st turn, if you can boost her base activation rate high enough.
And like I said only on 1st turn.

She has AOE active skill, nuking enemy is no problem.

Her speed is 530, a little bit slow for my taste.

Verdict : Ummm... I want to put her in S but now there's some girls have same passive like her.
Also her buff start to be on back foot compare girls that got their passive buff.
I think A rank may fit her... for now.

So the poll is closed. Voting seems to be fine without spamming as well. So B or C huh? Well just plus or minus one is common, not really something unordinary.

Just a thought, but isn't one week too long? We don't have many members here so how about 1 girl every 3 days or 2 girls a week?

Yeah, I think 1 girl every 3 days is better. It will clearly keep this thread more lively.