View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

    0 0%
  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
  • B-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • C-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • D-Tier

    1 8.33%
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  1. #1

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    Well I would like to join too but I need some breaks from here. Not only because of salt incident but I got a very bad case of influenza in god know many years. Common cold and flu are here and there but influenza is just unwelcomed rare guest. Need entire week to recover and well, I got all the time to cool off or rather, I don't think of anything but to healed as quick as possible.

    About +/- I would like it since it would give detailed insight and differentiate the girl in the same tier better. For example Pink and Kuroyuri. Since I gave her C tier back then it's obvious that in my opinion Pink is better. With all our vote however they are in the same tier while I see so much different in their power and potential. Note that I don't reject any opinions that differ from me, it just that their power is too different despite in the same tier in my opinion ALONE. *Need to emphasis on this*

    While I'm here, let's go with quick review on Nerine.
    Nerine is one of the more common girl in my ally list. (Not as common as Dendrobium or Japanese Anemone) Why... yes why I wonder, she's definitely not bad but her abilities set is pretty standard with one useless ability unless you use her in nation defense. With renewal ND however this ability becomes even more useless. Now let me prepare paper only stamp...

    1. Raw stat: Nothing to say besides glass cannon. Low HP and extremely high atk. Average def and rather quick on her feet. She will sweeps them quick and get swept under her feet in the retaliation.
    Grading: B-

    2. Skill: I wonder why she has that derpy face similar to Iono when using skill... Slightly higher power in exchange of low skill act rate. I prefer 2.8x and 37% more.
    Grading: B- (Derp face has nothing to do with this for your record)

    3. Abilities: We have usual atk boost. 30% is pretty standard after rebuff.
    The next combo is pretty intense however, with 1.36x skill act top and 15% damage boost from skill combo. She would help the member use skill more often and boost damage from it. The same problem as Pink persist however, do you have enough skillblooms? And would you use it on her? 1.28x barebone is not too shabby and should be serviceable though.
    30% def with 5.3% damage reduction and guts happy set can make her stand longer on the battlefield. But her value would decline as she sweep the small flies out, it's the game for the big gun rather than sweeper like her.
    Last ability... Can I just leave it there...? I mean, what's the point?
    Grading: B-

    Final verdict: B or C depends on team setup. If you don't have team with damage boost from skill and sufficient skill act to back up, then a C. If you have a team like Shiro-chan (Christmas) and Edelweiss (new year) to go with her, then it's B. The party for Nerine is still limited but should expanded soon. But as I said, I still have no idea why she's popular in my ally list...
    Oh and I forgot, I grade her C due to limited team member and strict condition with flexiblity.

    Extra: Which the only reason I can think of is that she's cute! I mean she seems like a trying to be good kid for you so you can compliment her a lot, which in turn made her try even harder. It's a vicious loop you can abuse on girls like her... Muwahahah!
    Well half joking. She's cute and trying hard for you to compliment her part seems true though. She's also the one girl that eluded from me whether it's her 5* or 6* so I never play her CQ and thus have extremely limited info about her.
    Last edited by game2534; 08-11-2018 at 11:55 PM.

  2. #2

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    Nerine. I don't have her or her bride version. I don't love her, I don't hate her. Totally neutral paper rating this time.

    Stats:
    HP: she has the 3rd worst HP from natural rainbow (4th if I counter Alstroemaria but I don't count her obviously). That's not a good thing. Even if she is not a defensive girl.
    ATK: Highest ATK of the game with Pink. Good point.
    DEF: Her def is okay. Average DEF but enough for me.
    That girl knows how to go from an extreme to another. Hopefully, she did it right but her low HP is still a problem, espacially with all thoses super strong pests.

    Skill
    2.9x damages all, 34% skill rate. Sorry Nerine but it's the same than the other girls. 2.8x dmg, 37% skill is better. But it's still good and classic for a rainbow. Nothing much to say here.

    Abilities
    Ignores effects from Speed-altering panels in maps.
    Useless now. And I wonder if it was usefull at any moment of the game. Lila is enough for it, Dipladenia is good too. And no rainbow should have this kind of ability. Sorry Nerine and Christmas Rose.

    +30% ATK for all
    It's above the usual buff for all. Not thebest but really nice. Good point for her.

    1.36x skill activation
    Another good ability. Very appreciable and still rare in the game.

    +15% skill damages
    I guess it's good? I really don't know how to rate this. On the paper it's not bad but I don't really know if there is any skill damage steam archetype and if it's viable or not. But it goes well with her skill rate buff so, why not.

    +30% DEF for all and guts
    Not bad because of Guts but not good because it's not usefull. She is not a counter girl or a really defensive girl and it looks just like a bonus ability. Nice to have but not needed.

    She has some good assets with her ATK buff and her skil act buff but that's almost all. Nothing really exciting here.

    Team Build
    Nerine is very flexible and can go everywhere in almost every team... if you don't have better girl. She don't bring really good things aside her skill rate. She can't fit in every (or almost every) serious archetype and there will always be gorls better than her. And I know I should not compare girls but there is also Christmas Rose in the game, very similar with speed panel thing and skill rate... with a way better utility for Crit Team.
    Sorry Nerine. You're not bad on the paper and can be great as placeholder but you suffer too much from concurrency.

    Conclusion
    Extreme stats, good skill and a lot of useless or not usefull abilities. Good everywhere, exeptionnal nowhere. Nerine is not bad but it' hard to find HER place. She can do a lot of jobs (even in some offensive version of Counter Teams) but there is always better girls to replace her.
    Like I said, the only team type made for her could be Skill damage team (and I'm not even sure of it) but I'm not even sure it's a real team archetype.

    Final verdict:
    C Tier because you don't actually need her. It's good if you found her in gacha but there is so much other better girls to choose if you want to build a solid team.
    Maybe you will be better in the future Nerine. If devs want it.

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  3. #3
    With everything everyone's already said, while a really high ATK is nice, but for many players, building a team around a arhtype is arguably more important than raw stat power.

    Given her abilities, it's already been stated she does not fit into any one particular typing; with exception of speed negation, all her other abilities can be useful in some situation, especially that 1.36x skill act. She also have DEF boost, but no counter, which makes her like a half-finished project...So she can fit in any team, boosting its existing skillsets, but she won't be a "make-it-or-break" team member because of her lack of specialization.

    On a side note, many loli-fans seem to like her design. So while she is general enough to fit in many teams, she has a lack of specialized skillset to distinguish herself amongst today's power-creep, she might be fading if she does not get buffed. Her 1.36x skill act. is nothing to scoff at, but it's about the only feature I can give points on. So C TIER is my vote.

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