View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

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  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
  • B-Tier

    5 41.67%
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    I have a fully maxed Kerria and i have experience using her.
    Like game i will make it short,too

    Everything is already covered.
    @Kurenai and maotd


    There are in my opinion 4 Pillars of Competetive Play:
    Counter, Crit, Debuff and SolarBlast.

    Each of these Archetype has at least one girl which represents the brokeness of those Archetypes the best.

    For Counter it's definetely Saffron, for Crit it's in my opinion Rainbow Rose (Yes i think in pure aggressive Crit Builds Rainbow Rose is better than Kerria. And lets be honest most Crit Builds are offensive ones), for SolarBlast it's Dogwood and for Debuff the absolute best girls are Aconite and Kerria (and she is not even a Debuff Girl xD).

    Aconite + Kerria make an awesome Debuff Core which i like to call the "Sisters of Immortality"
    Kerria got a lot of competition lately and she still reigns supreme. The only thing which annoys me slightly is her Low Speed. It's still possible to fix that issue somewhat easily compared to Lavender's or Cosmos' Speed.

    So yeah Kerria has nice solid stat distribution (even tough her defense is a bit lacking) and an awesome Ability Set which synergizes well with her HP Absorb.

    I mean there is a reason Kerria besides Maple is the only Girl i maxed out (5 Skill Levels and 4 Equipment Slots). Also basically everyone in this forum has Kerria by this point or has plans to get her. She is just that good!!!

    Final Verdict: S-Tier
    Last edited by Wutan; 07-18-2018 at 10:11 AM.

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    Kerria Discussion is over. As expected she is the second girl joining the Flower Girl Olymp.
    Congratulations

    Next Girl:

    http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Cherry
    Deadline: 25.07.2018

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    I think I'm still lack of knowledge about girls in this game.
    So I'll step back for this thread.

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    I have got Cherry during last Christmas Season. I have got her from a Random 6* Gacha Deal. Funny thing is that i wanted a Debuff Girl and got one.
    Is Cherry a worthy representative of that archetype? Let's find out

    Stats:

    HP: 20696
    In terms of HP she is in the top 20 of natural Rainbows (to be exact she is rank 20). That's a good start but what about her Atk Stat?

    Atk: 7318
    There are only 7 Rainbows who have a worse Atk Stat than her. That's bad cause if you want to buff one thing in a Debuff Squad besides the obvious Damage Reduction it's Damage. Her horrible Atk. doesn't do it in that regard.

    Defense: 3140
    Her Defense is good. Not in the top 20's or top 30's but still good and extra bulk is always nice for Defensive playstyles.

    Grading: It would have been nice if she had a little bit more Atk but overall her stat distribution is solid for a defensive Girl like her.
    B

    Skill Damage and Skill Activation:

    Deals 3.8x damage to 2 enemies
    At first glance that might look not that impressive. A lot of people prefer either SingleTargetDamage or Full Out AOE Attacks. However Cherry is the only (Natural Rainbow) Debuff Girl with Skill Damage somewhat comparible to SingleTarget Attackers. All other Natural Debuff Girls are AOE Attackers. This makes Cherry unique and she fills a niche in the Debuff archetype.

    24% (Lv1) → 34% (Lv5)
    The weakest form of Skill Activation Chance for Rainbows. Not bad but nothing to write home about either.

    Grading:
    That section is good.
    B+

    Abilities:

    This section frustrates me cause the "buffs" she received recently are a joke if you compare them to the buffs other girls got "cough" Anemone "cough" Acacia "cough". She definetely got the short end of the stick.

    That's what the devs buffed:

    Increases Attack for party members by 15%. --> Increases Attack for party members by 20%
    Reduces Attack for enemies by 15%. --> Reduces Attack for enemies by 20%.

    They also buffed her Skill Activation Chance cause it was abysmal for a 6* Girl (20% at Skill Level 1 if i remember correctly).

    Not really that impressive compared to the buffs other girls received,huh?
    Lets take a look at her other two Abilities, shall we?

    In a Boss fight, increases Attack for 3 party members, oneself included, by 40%.
    I would have prefered if they gave her 25% Atk for all party members instead. I am not a fan of Random Atk buffs cause you want to buff your strongest Nuker Girls in your Debuff Team (Kerria for example). Therefore a Random Atk buff often misses the girl you want to buff. Also in terms of overall Atk Increase 25% for all is superior to 40% for three.

    Increases Damage for 3 party members, oneself included, against Bosses by 18%.
    Same applies here. Random Atk Buff. Meh.

    Grading:
    This section is not that impressive to me. Her Atk Buff for the whole group is the absolute standard. Her 20% Debuff to Enemies is certainly nice but there are other girls with that Ability which also have better secondary Abilities. Her other two Abilities are "RNG Heavy" and just don't buff the girls you wanna buff reliably. Also she only has 4 Abilities...
    C+

    Conclusion:
    Cherry has good stats, Skill Damage filling a niche in the Debuff Archetype and two suboptimal Abilities which rely on RNG. She is a decent Debuff Girl and she gets a big plus for being one of the very few Debuff Hit Type Girls. Like Counter there are not many Hit Tye Girls in the Debuff Department. Normally i would have put her in C-Tier (C+) but considering she counts as a rare type i decided to put her in B-Tier instead.

    Final Verdict:
    B-Tier
    Last edited by Wutan; 07-21-2018 at 01:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twilightdream View Post
    I think I'm still lack of knowledge about girls in this game.
    So I'll step back for this thread.
    That's sad.
    I liked your votes. They were quite reasonable. Also the more the merrier.
    You could only vote for girls you personally possess if you want. Nothing beats first hand experience!

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    I almost forgot Cherry. So, let's go for her on paper.

    Stats:
    HP: She is on the good side. She don't actually needs them that much but it's good to have a good HP stat for a Debuff girl.
    ATK: She is really close to the botom and that's a shame. With better ATK she could be slightly better but... nah. She is very weak on that side.
    DEF: Good defense. Not the best but still above the 3k threshold and that's good for me. But like HP, it's not supposed to be her best stat.
    She has really nice defensive stats but... she is not a Counter girl. A bit too meh for me.

    Skill
    x3.8 damages on 2 enemies, 34% skillact.
    She is one of the few natural 6* with that kind of ability... and you already know, I don't like it. It can be useful for some Aquashadows bosses but it seems last ones are really toughs. And I'm not sure Cherry was strong enough to fight them.

    Abilities
    +20% ATk for all
    Classic good ATK buff. Always welcome to raise a bit her bad ATK and support friends.

    -20% Attack for all enemies
    That's her best ability. -20% for all is (if I'm not wrong) the best ability of that kind. Most of them are +15% for all or +20% for two. This made her one of the best debuff girl.

    +40% ATK and +18% damages on boss fight for herself and 2 allies
    I put the last two abilities toghter because they're very similar. First, why? Why a such good buff for only herself and 2 random girls? With her bad ATK stat and her meh skill, she is not the best to receive theses buffs. Remains 2 allies. 2 RANDOM allies. It's not bad but you can't rely on it to give an amazing buff to your main girl (someone said Kerria?).
    She would be far better and reliable with a weaker buff on the whole team. But she only has this. Not bad but it's more a bonus than an ability you will choose for itself.

    Team Build
    Cherry is not bad but due to her strange stat+skill+ability combo she don't have many team options. Like almost every rainbows you can use her in most teams as placeholder but unless some other 6*, she will not brings something awesome. Even -20% enemy ATKis not that good alone.
    Her only true place is in a debuff team where she can have a solid place with her -20% ATK for every pests. And... that's all. And even with that really good debuff, she is outclassed by a lot of other debuff girls.
    If you want to use her in single or two boss battles, a girl with -20% on two enemies and better stats/abilities will be better.
    If you want to use her in a 3 pests fight, her skill can be a problem if she don't hit the rights targets.

    Conclusion
    Cherry is a strange girl with almost nothing coherent. She has good Counter stats but she is not counter, she has semi self ATK/damages buff but she is weak and don't have a strong single target skill and she has a really cool -20% debuff for all the a skill not for all.
    She could be good if she was more focused on one job instead of trying to be everything but nothing good.

    Final verdict:
    I'm a bit rude with her. Despite all her flaws she is still a nice debuff girl (and her Bride version is really cute). I will give her a C Tier for her utility in debuff teams. Sorry Cherry.
    Note that even her Birde ver. after 6* promotion have the same kind of uncoherent flaws with ATK based on remaning pests and a single target skill. And, just to say, if regular Cherry and 6* Bride Cherry swapped their abilities, they would be both better.

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    Alright. It's amazing how time zips on by when work is exhausting as it is. I missed out on Kerria but was pretty much in agreement with everyone anyway. She is definitely S Tier material. Now for a quick analysis on Cherry before it's too late. I happened to have some experience with her as I got her toward the end of my time on Nutaku.

    Analysis
    Cherry actually has some pretty decent stats when you look at her. Her HP is pretty decent and she has very good def, which seems to be a good trait for most blunt rainbows. Her attack stat is the weakest link as it is not terrible, but she certainly won't be the hardest hitting girl on the team. Her skill is roughly standard activation rate and is pretty good as a 2-hit attack. Frankly adorable at the same time.

    Now for look at her skills. In some ways they are both great and not so great at the same time. Clearly she is meant to be a debuff focused girl. Outside the standard ATK increase for party members at 20%, she also lowers the ATK of the enemy by the same amount. Very nice. Now comes the part with the pros and cons. The cons are that these following abilities only work for herself and 2 other team mates, leaving the remaining 2 out of luck. This could suck if you want a really hard hitting team mate to get the buff but does. But the positive side is that these are some of the best rates against bosses in the game: increases ATK by 40% and DMG by 18%. So both sides equal out in the end to make her pretty decent.

    In the end I think Cherry is a very solid girl to have in any debuff or life steal team you are building. I give her a final verdict of B-Tier

    Waifu Analysis
    Man! What can I say. Cherry is simply adorable. With her always cheerful expression, she'd brighten any person's cloudy day. She has a cute little bird too. On top of that she is definitely all woman with a very curvaceous and OPPAI body to die for. Her bright green hair stands out attractively to the rest of the cast as you don't see green hair too often. She does have a sad past if I remember, which just makes you want to hold onto her and comfort her even more. Some may think it weird or wrong, but during her affection scene she starts calling you Papa. Nutaku clearly butchered the translation in their way of censoring it but there was no denying what she was saying. It made me really like her because of helping her through that past trauma. This is without a doubt a waifu that I would think be amazing in real life too.

    Waifu rating: S-Tier
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    Ok the Cherry Discussion is over.

    Only 3 votes:
    2x B-Tier
    1x C-Tier

    She will end up in B-Tier.


    Next Girl:

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    Deadline: 30.07.2018

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