Indeed when faced with multiple paths there is only one thing to do

I think I went too far.
Oh well, needed the gold.

Isn't the 80 stamina gold mission better (and easier) than this one for gold?

If your only interest is gold then the 80 stam gold mission is the best stam to gold ratio and that is including selling all 2* girls and playing the normal gatcha and selling those too.

If you want XP and gold tho it's not a good option.

Originally Posted by Zandel

If your only interest is gold then the 80 stam gold mission is the best stam to gold ratio and that is including selling all 2* girls and playing the normal gatcha and selling those too.

If you want XP and gold tho it's not a good option.

But neither is the ultimate event mission. The exp/stamina ratio is barely better in exchange for a much worse gold/stamina ratio (even if you sell all the girls from the seeds), so I'm not sure what the point is in playing the ultimate mission besides the skillblooms, unless you need to dump stamina before leveling. I think if you can clear the ultimate event mission, you can clear 12-3 if you're concerned about exp or do the gold mission if you don't care about exp. The ultimate mission seems like a middle ground that's just worse. And if you can clear it, 12-5 is way better than the ultimate mission, although it's probably harder.

80 stamina gold:
~22k gold
160 exp -> 2 exp/stamina
275 gold/stamina

120 stamina event:
~20k gold
~2k seeds
300 exp -> 2.5 exp/stamina
167 gold/stamina
17 seeds/stamina

12-3 (35 stamina):
~3k gold
~600 seeds
473 exp -> 13.5 exp/stamina
86 gold/stamina
17 seeds/stamina

12-5 (40 stamina):
~5k gold
~1000 seeds
560 exp -> 14 exp/stamina
125 gold/stamina
25 seeds/stamina

Originally Posted by ngtrungkhanh

Try hard to clear ?-4.
The bloom drop rate is almost 100%
I played ?-3 five times and only got one bloom

Originally Posted by thewind32

Indeed, don't bother wasting time and stamina on ?-3. I've cleared ?-4 twice so far and gotten the drop both times. You do not need to clear everything on the ?-4 map, just the final boss to reach the chest. Look for a stronger helper squad.
Otherwise, you still have time to farm normal maps and strengthen your teams.

Just as I feared... I'm still a bit far away from clearing it even with my strongest friend as a helper (53k pwr) as I started playing around 11 days ago. I managed to get one skill bloom yesterday so here's me hoping I can hit a lucky streak and get the skill up to at least 4/5.

Just so you are aware Lied, I was not comparing to any specific mission with my post but ALL missions. I have done the math on farming 1-3, 2-1, 12-5 event missions and all manner of other missions to see which was the most gold efficient (I have major gold issues with so many 4* and 5* girls to evolve at close to the same time it's annoying). Funny enough farming 12-5 is not much different ratio wise to farming 1-3 or 2-1. The biggest difference is the chance for lvl 100 manyu's and ampy's. XP ratio is slightly better as well but not by enough to really matter.

If you need Gold then do the lower lvl missions because you get more 2* girls for the same stam with comparable seeds and gold. If you want lvl 5 or lvl 20 manyu's then same rules apply. If you need ampy's, lvl 100 msnyu's or simply need the stam gone faster (time wise that is) then do 12-5.

Originally Posted by Zandel

Just so you are aware Lied, I was not comparing to any specific mission with my post but ALL missions. I have done the math on farming 1-3, 2-1, 12-5 event missions and all manner of other missions to see which was the most gold efficient (I have major gold issues with so many 4* and 5* girls to evolve at close to the same time it's annoying). Funny enough farming 12-5 is not much different ratio wise to farming 1-3 or 2-1. The biggest difference is the chance for lvl 100 manyu's and ampy's. XP ratio is slightly better as well but not by enough to really matter.

If you need Gold then do the lower lvl missions because you get more 2* girls for the same stam with comparable seeds and gold. If you want lvl 5 or lvl 20 manyu's then same rules apply. If you need ampy's, lvl 100 msnyu's or simply need the stam gone faster (time wise that is) then do 12-5.

Yeah, my first post was simply specifically questioning why someone would farm the ultimate event map, since Kuremisago seemed to indicate that they had farmed it for gold. I was wondering if there was any actual reason for doing this when the Gold Mission is better for gold and 12-5/1-3/whatever is better for other stuff. So I was trying to see if I was missing something that would make the Ultimate stage worth farming.

I think the main thing you miss out on on farming 1-3 or 2-1 is the raid bosses. Does 1-3/2-1 actually make you more gold than 12-5? Because unless it does I can't see a reason to farm it once you can move on to the better stages.

Actually just ran a 12-5 to test and doing the math seems to indicate that gold wise 12-5 is better for the stam after all, even with the extra 2* girls. Seems the only reason to run the lower level ones is to farm lvl 5 and lvl 20 manyu's. I stand corrected.

Did they change 1-3 in any way since yesterday? I used to be able to farm it + bonus stage endlessly, but today I've completed 1-3 a total of 15 times and I haven't gotten the bonus stage a single time (I did get some raid bosses though). Does this mean I've gotten everything possible from the bonus stage and it's now turned off for me? Do I have to move to the 50 stamina bonus stages? That's kinda harsh, considering I only have 160 max stamina.

Edit: Quick question, and this is very off topic.. I was just wondering how the login bonuses work. After Round 1 (which had alot of Flower Gems) comes Round 2 which seems to only have 2 Flower Gems. I was just wondering, what happens after Round 2? A third round that's as "crappy" as the second one, or does it go back to the good rewards of Round 1?