Originally Posted by ngtrungkhanh

Try hard to clear ?-4.
The bloom drop rate is almost 100%
I played ?-3 five times and only got one bloom

Originally Posted by thewind32

Indeed, don't bother wasting time and stamina on ?-3. I've cleared ?-4 twice so far and gotten the drop both times. You do not need to clear everything on the ?-4 map, just the final boss to reach the chest. Look for a stronger helper squad.
Otherwise, you still have time to farm normal maps and strengthen your teams.

Just as I feared... I'm still a bit far away from clearing it even with my strongest friend as a helper (53k pwr) as I started playing around 11 days ago. I managed to get one skill bloom yesterday so here's me hoping I can hit a lucky streak and get the skill up to at least 4/5.

Just so you are aware Lied, I was not comparing to any specific mission with my post but ALL missions. I have done the math on farming 1-3, 2-1, 12-5 event missions and all manner of other missions to see which was the most gold efficient (I have major gold issues with so many 4* and 5* girls to evolve at close to the same time it's annoying). Funny enough farming 12-5 is not much different ratio wise to farming 1-3 or 2-1. The biggest difference is the chance for lvl 100 manyu's and ampy's. XP ratio is slightly better as well but not by enough to really matter.

If you need Gold then do the lower lvl missions because you get more 2* girls for the same stam with comparable seeds and gold. If you want lvl 5 or lvl 20 manyu's then same rules apply. If you need ampy's, lvl 100 msnyu's or simply need the stam gone faster (time wise that is) then do 12-5.

Originally Posted by Zandel

Just so you are aware Lied, I was not comparing to any specific mission with my post but ALL missions. I have done the math on farming 1-3, 2-1, 12-5 event missions and all manner of other missions to see which was the most gold efficient (I have major gold issues with so many 4* and 5* girls to evolve at close to the same time it's annoying). Funny enough farming 12-5 is not much different ratio wise to farming 1-3 or 2-1. The biggest difference is the chance for lvl 100 manyu's and ampy's. XP ratio is slightly better as well but not by enough to really matter.

If you need Gold then do the lower lvl missions because you get more 2* girls for the same stam with comparable seeds and gold. If you want lvl 5 or lvl 20 manyu's then same rules apply. If you need ampy's, lvl 100 msnyu's or simply need the stam gone faster (time wise that is) then do 12-5.

Yeah, my first post was simply specifically questioning why someone would farm the ultimate event map, since Kuremisago seemed to indicate that they had farmed it for gold. I was wondering if there was any actual reason for doing this when the Gold Mission is better for gold and 12-5/1-3/whatever is better for other stuff. So I was trying to see if I was missing something that would make the Ultimate stage worth farming.

I think the main thing you miss out on on farming 1-3 or 2-1 is the raid bosses. Does 1-3/2-1 actually make you more gold than 12-5? Because unless it does I can't see a reason to farm it once you can move on to the better stages.

Actually just ran a 12-5 to test and doing the math seems to indicate that gold wise 12-5 is better for the stam after all, even with the extra 2* girls. Seems the only reason to run the lower level ones is to farm lvl 5 and lvl 20 manyu's. I stand corrected.

Did they change 1-3 in any way since yesterday? I used to be able to farm it + bonus stage endlessly, but today I've completed 1-3 a total of 15 times and I haven't gotten the bonus stage a single time (I did get some raid bosses though). Does this mean I've gotten everything possible from the bonus stage and it's now turned off for me? Do I have to move to the 50 stamina bonus stages? That's kinda harsh, considering I only have 160 max stamina.

Edit: Quick question, and this is very off topic.. I was just wondering how the login bonuses work. After Round 1 (which had alot of Flower Gems) comes Round 2 which seems to only have 2 Flower Gems. I was just wondering, what happens after Round 2? A third round that's as "crappy" as the second one, or does it go back to the good rewards of Round 1?

You're just facing a streak of bad luck much like i got 8 bonus missions from 8 12-3 runs one day.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

You're just facing a streak of bad luck much like i got 8 bonus missions from 8 12-3 runs one day.

Good to know! It's more that I didn't know that it was possible NOT to get the bonus stage from 1-3, the first 100 or so times I completed it I got the bonus stage 100% of the time. Now, for the first time that I don't get the bonus stage, it happens 15 times in a row. Hence why I thought they had changed something, heh..

Originally Posted by JessMini

Edit: Quick question, and this is very off topic.. I was just wondering how the login bonuses work. After Round 1 (which had alot of Flower Gems) comes Round 2 which seems to only have 2 Flower Gems. I was just wondering, what happens after Round 2? A third round that's as "crappy" as the second one, or does it go back to the good rewards of Round 1?

I think your "set" rotates. I'm on Day 39 now, nearly done with a full block of Flower Gems.

Originally Posted by Lied

Yeah, my first post was simply specifically questioning why someone would farm the ultimate event map, since Kuremisago seemed to indicate that they had farmed it for gold. I was wondering if there was any actual reason for doing this when the Gold Mission is better for gold and 12-5/1-3/whatever is better for other stuff. So I was trying to see if I was missing something that would make the Ultimate stage worth farming.

Nah, I was going for the 10 flowers (Since I was pretty close before I bothered reading the 100% patch), and that the gold was a nice bonus. I know there's more efficient areas.
(I-I'm not that stupid, I swear)

I'm on round 3 I think which is 10 gems....which will be nice seeing as I've decided time to save for another 10+1 pull after doing 1 and then 3 indivudals...I should have enough of a squad to works on needing only 4/5 3* currently to round out numbers