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    The plural of anecdote is not data. Every game that has random draws has this exact same story, and the answer is exactly the same for all of them: bad luck is just that...bad luck. Nobody is picking on anyone, there's no conspiracy to withhold good draws from any one person.

    The mere existence of people in the game who have drawn 6* girls (of which I am not one, BTW) shows that there's nothing wrong with the gacha draws, they're just not as common as people would like them to be. I've received exactly three 5* girls in the gacha, and one of those was the guaranteed one everyone gets at the beginning so it's really only two. Being on the bad side of the bell curve of gacha draws happens sometimes. Out of the many people who play this game, having it happen repeatedly is also going to happen sometimes. People will post about their exceptionally bad luck, and people will post about their exceptionally good luck, but hardly anybody will post about their average luck (unless it's specifically to prove that average luck happens).

    Regarding farming flower gems, however, I am a little concerned that after we use up the big boost given by clearing all the maps we'll have flower gems become too scarce to get a single 10+1 draw on every round of limited gachas they put up, let alone be able to use enough to get what we want from them. The weeks where we get all gems for login rewards will help, but having only event maps to gather new gems is going to make the supply tight. Also, 12-5 might not be the last of the regular campaigns, but we have no confirmation on that as of yet. The only answer to a string of bad luck is more attempts, and they seem to want Nutaku gold to be the only way to break free of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Regarding farming flower gems, however, I am a little concerned that after we use up the big boost given by clearing all the maps we'll have flower gems become too scarce to get a single 10+1 draw on every round of limited gachas they put up, let alone be able to use enough to get what we want from them. The weeks where we get all gems for login rewards will help, but having only event maps to gather new gems is going to make the supply tight. Also, 12-5 might not be the last of the regular campaigns, but we have no confirmation on that as of yet. The only answer to a string of bad luck is more attempts, and they seem to want Nutaku gold to be the only way to break free of it.
    Heh, of course they are. After all, how do you expect them to fund the continuous operation of this freemium game if not by profits from selling the premium currency and its benefits?
    It is not like you need 6* girls to complete maps, and not like real money being only source of gems anyway.


    And eventually there should be a promotion allowing one to straight up buy any one girl for collection, and another one giving one random 6* as one-year continuous login bonus, if Nutaku is to follow the formula of original, so you might want to not spend till then.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    and they seem to want Nutaku gold to be the only way to break free of it.
    Agreed with your post, as for the last line, well someone has to pay the bills. Regardless, rare girls are not required to clear maps, so it's more of a collector's itch.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroZet View Post
    giving one random 6* as one-year continuous login bonus
    I would be pissed as hell if I missed 1 day for some reason, not that I don't welcome more ways to get free stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anon View Post
    TECHNICALLY (on average)

    Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star.
    Every 16-17 yields a 5 star
    Every 200 yields a 6 star

    So not getting all 3 stars with 10 gacha is a bit unlucky. About the same chance as flipping 3 coins and getting the same side (you did not pick) all 3 times. Looking at it that way it's unlucky but not a super rare occurrence. If you get a 5 star on the other hand, it could be considered lucky, but not really either. 6 star... I don't even need to say.
    To expand on this info and really emphasize the rip-off factor:

    Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star. = $15-$20
    Every 16-17 yields a 5 star = $80-$85
    Every 200 yields a 6 star = $1,000

    Ridiculous when you compare this to the price of just buying an h-game (or 10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycojj View Post
    To expand on this info and really emphasize the rip-off factor:

    Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star. = $15-$20
    Every 16-17 yields a 5 star = $80-$85
    Every 200 yields a 6 star = $1,000

    Ridiculous when you compare this to the price of just buying an h-game (or 10).
    Or, y'know' just farm all required gems in-game. For free. Shockingly cheap, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroZet View Post
    Or, y'know' just farm all required gems in-game. For free. Shockingly cheap, isn't it?
    And that's why this game isn't really pay2win but pay4convenience. Only rich people will pay aiming to roll 6*. Casuals may pay hoping for a 6*. Shockingly cheap? I have my doubts. Depends how you look at it; time is money. Especially since after you complete most of the maps, you instantly net over 100 gem depending how fast you complete the campaign & single time rewards. After that, however, you slowly get some for new events and attendance; maybe only 20 or so a month (compared to like 100 in about a week when you barely start off). But of course if you know more ways to 'farm' gems... like say 1000 of them (which average a single 6*) in a month or two, please do tell. I don't see the 'farm' aspect of it once the farm in the beginning has been harvested once.

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    It is not Pay4Convenience because you get slower Flower Gems, the more you advance in the game. It is just that 6* is overkill for nothing, 4* and the Event Girls bring you through 12-5, which is the hardest map we currently have.
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    Wow so those people who rolled 2 6* in a few tries did win the lottery. And if you must have 6*s much cheaper to buy an account
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miu View Post
    Wow so those people who rolled 2 6* in a few tries did win the lottery. And if you must have 6*s much cheaper to buy an account
    i spent 100 flower gems during the limited 2 slice gacha and got baccara alpinia and camellia, i thought that the chances were increased a lot, since after that i saw a lot of people with 6*, but it was just my imagination, rng godess likes me
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    Lol your signature will make a lot of people angry
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