Last edited by Saertis; 07-31-2016 at 02:12 PM.
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Simply put, there are some situations where it's beneficial to put AOE girls first and there are situations where it doesn't matter either way. However, there are no situations where it's beneficial to put single target girls first. So effectively, you might as well put the AOE girls first anyway, since it never hurts to do so, but is occasionally beneficial.
Guys...Flower Knight Girl as it is right now isn't that difficult. Just play for a while, upgrade and evolve your girls, and all of these distinctions will become utterly meaningless. Endgame is completely doable without worrying about attack order or skill synergies. Helper squads are simple...sort by power level, then swap in any specialty girls like Chocolate Cosmos, Toad Lily, or Lilac if you want to (Edelweiss likely already be there). That's it.
I know some people like to figure out how to be optimal, but in this case it's like calculating the force needed to snap Legos together when any kid can tell you the answer is 'not enough to care what the number is.'
That's if you consider only 3 target aoe girls and single target ones. But there're also 2 target aoe skills. That way it can happen that single target girl attack enemy hit by both 3 and 2 target aoe girls instead of go for that one who wasn't hit by later type of aoe skills. That's definitely not beneficial.
Kids doesn't care because all they want is to play. Thare're some people who like to think about stuffs.
Last edited by Saertis; 07-31-2016 at 04:29 PM.
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It makes no difference in that scenario though, if they aren't capable of killing. If you reverse the orders of attacks without changing the targets, the single target will hit the one enemy and then the AoE girls will double up on it and the end result is the same.
A scenario where it does help to have a single target go before the 2 target is this: let's say you have Orchid and Edelweiss vs 3 pests, two strong and one weak. Your Orchid can kill the weak pest without Edelweiss's help but neither of them can take down the strong pest in one turn, even if they both attack it, and Edelweiss can't kill the weak pest on her own. So the optimal targeting is Orchid vs the weak pest, and Edelweiss vs the two strong ones.
If Orchid goes first, the probability you will get optimal targeting is 1/3 (Orchid picks the right target) * 1 (if Orchid picked the right target, killing it, Edelweiss will always AoE the other two)
If Edelweiss goes first, the probability you get optimal targeting is 1/3 (Edelweiss picks the two strong pests) * 1/3 (Orchid picks the weak pest) = 1/9.
So in that very specific example Orchid before Edelweiss gives you better results. In general though I would recommend AoE first as others have said.
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Since he/she didn't mention that about aoe grils I always considered that single target can finish by herself while aoe can't.After MiqDoloran's post I realized that I though earlier of one scenario (all enemies are equally strong) while that isn't always true. After all I said:
Now after this discussion I agree that mostly it's better to have aoe first but I don't think it shouldn't be mentioned that there're situations where it isn't true.
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Well, I think it's best to have the "Hit ALL enemies" skills first because there is literally no benefit to reducing the number of enemies before these fire off. After that though, the "hit 2 enemies" skills occasionally will be worse if they go before single target, like in that specific example given by Miu, but generally speaking having the single target girls last is most frequently optimal because for many pests it doesn't matter, but when you come to boss + adds, it's MUCH better if the single target girl is left with no option but to hit the boss lol.
Me, I need to rework my helper squad a tad, I think, since I'm mixing in Toad Lily. I have BB -> Anemone -> Flowering Peach -> Cyrtanthus -> Cepha atm, which leaves me with Hit All -> Hit Random -> Single x3, but Toad Lily is Hit All, so she'll go after BB and before Anemone.
Last edited by A Time to Screw; 08-02-2016 at 10:53 AM.
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