Originally Posted by Eab1990

Although she's not listed, Daisy is in the pool (and presumably Iris and Anthurium as well).

My rolls:
Step 1: Kikyo Bellflower
Step 2: Jasmine
Step 3: Violetta Tulip #12
Step 4: Yulan
Step 5: Strawberry Candle (new)
Step 6: Daisy (the rainbow I wanted most)

I also did a single roll on the player's gacha again for kicks, and got Rose.

Today is a good day.

Confirm Anthurium is in the pool, as I got her as my 5*, and Fritillaria as my 6*, both new units so I am fairly pleased with that.

I will say the same thing about this as I have posted on FB.
60 bucks is a lot of money for a bloody microtransaction. These sums cannot be even considered "micro transactions". Not at this amount.
If the devs used their brains and would decrease the prices people would be more inclined to buy something.
Example: Paying 20 bucks 3x times a month, does not feel that bad as paying 60 bucks straight up front. Its the same in the end but feels different in person.
If they reduced the prices they put in the game (mainly the cost of nutaku gold) people with lower budget might be able to afford them, and they would actually make more money since more people would like to buy something, rather than the miniscule amount of wealthy players who dont care about throwing around hundred of $$ each month.
Many devps. know this and thats why games like Dota2, League of Legends, etc earn shit tons of money, Because the Micro transaction is small enough to feel insignificant - but once you buy multiple of them you still spend a lot of money at the end of the month. Korean MMORPGS do it this way and works, heck even WOW is doing Micro transactions these days, seeing it as a working business model.

Originally Posted by Myrdin

60 bucks is a lot of money for a bloody microtransaction. These sums cannot be even considered "micro transactions". Not at this amount.

Thing is, they are not. These are premium packs, offering you their rarest commodities. You can't really expect a restaurant to serve you a full-course gourmet meal for a couple of bucks, after all.
And they already have "micro" parts in place, allowing you to draw Premium and one of Limited gachas for a mere 1$, once in awhile, and 3$ after that. And even regular draw prices outside of a free gems are not that big at 5$ when you exhaust discounted pulls.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

Thing is, they are not. These are premium packs, offering you their rarest commodities. You can't really expect a restaurant to serve you a full-course gourmet meal for a couple of bucks, after all.
And they already have "micro" parts in place, allowing you to draw Premium and one of Limited gachas for a mere 1$, once in awhile, and 3$ after that. And even regular draw prices outside of a free gems are not that big at 5$ when you exhaust discounted pulls.

^ This. It's been established numerous times there is zero NEED for a 6* (or even a 5*) to clear all game content, so the 6*s, and to a much lesser extent gacha 5*s, are purely premium content/bonus content. Furthermore, nearly all the games you mentioned make a huge portion of their money from subscriptions, something Nutaku does not have. Without that subscription money, the store for premium content must inevitably be more expensive (granted, as a portal/part-time developer its costs aren't in the same league as subscription-based MMOs).

Theoretically, you could make an argument that due to much lower costs, the subscription point is invalid, looking purely at the premium store prices. "Micro transactions" are designed to make you spend a little here, a little there, over and over. This is a LIMITED TIME OFFER, thus the whole point is "spend a lot now for an extremely rare item (in this case, a girl lol)" and thus cannot be fairly compared to the "micro transactions" that permeate many online games' daily offerings. As ZeroZet pointed out, this game DOES have its own micro transactions, and this is not by any means intended to be in the same category as them.

Now I do not diaereses with you completely I will however point out one thing.
Other then WoW most of the games I mentioned are Free to play, and earn their (for non subs. game rather huge) amount of money through micro- transactions. Subscription is not required, in actuality last few years people shy away from this type of billing system, instead leaning towards games that offer payment through micro transactions. I personally am a LoL player and without being forced to, I spent not a small sum on the game over the course of last 4 or so years. But all of them being small transactions, one at a time, it didnt feel as if I gave away half of my salary for a game. Same thing about some of the ´FTP MMORPGS, and I am talking about AAA titles like Black Desert Online and other high production/quality projects.

Yes the game is beatable - but in all honesty - this is not so much game that has to be "beaten" rather (its not Dark Souls after all), its main focus is on collection and unlocking all the girls and their CG art.

Oh holy crap, I would never play any game that had both a subscription fee and a microtransactions-to-win model. I'm not going to pay twice to get the most out of a game, and if I'm not going to have a chance at being the best I'm certainly not going to pay to be disadvantaged.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh holy crap, I would never play any game that had both a subscription fee and a microtransactions-to-win model. I'm not going to pay twice to get the most out of a game, and if I'm not going to have a chance at being the best I'm certainly not going to pay to be disadvantaged.

Basically all SUB games that have micro transactions are for items that have no in game effect other than looks or so little an effect that they are not 'Pay to win' items. It's the FTP games that most often have pay to win options to ensure players actually spend money. As for Nutaku.... i'm kinda glad and kinda say that they have not fixed their gold buying system. I cannot buy nutaku gold from australia since they have still not fixed the Paypal option and thus cannot even enter these sort of things.

Until finally the super happy !!




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Originally Posted by IvanLedah21

Confirm Anthurium is in the pool, as I got her as my 5*, and Fritillaria as my 6*, both new units so I am fairly pleased with that.

Congratulations ^^

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