Originally Posted by Gosara

Thats why i said to many blah blah blah over a Bonus girl when she wasn't the main girl in the step up.

Oh sure, it's not like Bride Cactace's artwork is displayed on the advertisement or anything as the main draw for this step-up gatcha. And it's not like Cactace herself was already in a previous rainbow ticket deal awhile back (she as, in case you can't detect sarcasm).

Face it, the Bride Cactace is as much of a "Bonus" as the meat in a Meat Bun.

Just eat the Bun. The meat is a bonus. Totally. We're just selling you the bun. The meat is a bonus topping, just pay twice the amount you'd usually pay for a meat bun.

Don't be fooled by Nutaku. This Step-Up had every intention of making Bride Cactace the main goddamn draw of the deal. Don't just eat up any "buzzword" Nutaku throws at you. Whether or not Bride Cactace is a "bonus" or not, this is a bad deal enough simply because it alienates a certain subset of customers who would otherwise want Bride Cactace, but are "unfortunate" enough to already own original Cactace. Don't they want more money?

Like I said, wait until the Orchid Bride Step-Up when they introduced 6* Bride Orchid as a $60 bonus only after spending $50 on buying the normal 5* Orchid. I'd like to see you justify Nutaku's actions then.

Dude is displayed because you CAN get her, but the main one is the 6* the other is a Bonus please read the IMPORTANT thing in there, Brides events are #16 you can get them there wasting 1000 gems if you want, yes Cactus was in previous pick girl guaranteed same as many others been repeated it doesnt mean a crap, If they put Orchid in that way is UP to anyone to spend if they want or like i said WAIT for the event, Nutaku is not forcing you a crap to pay for the game or something they just put OFFERS or STUFF and you know if its suits you or NOT. Unfortunate ones to have already a Cactus will wait for the Bride event you know? same as SOME OF US that we got already girls that still are going in the guaranteeds and we are not crying about it right?.

Originally Posted by Gosara

Dude is displayed because you CAN get her, but the main one is the 6* the other is a Bonus please read the IMPORTANT thing in there

What's the first thing you think players will see? The pretty picture of the bride or a tiny little fine print button that says the same thing it always does?

They're advertising Bride Cactace because it's what they're hoping people will pay for. If Bride Cactace was a bonus as you said, they'd put at least a picture of the normal Cactace beside the Bride Cactace in the ad display

But no, only Bride Cactace is there. Further solidfying that 6* Cactace is just a stepping stone for the desperate.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's the first thing you think players will see? The pretty picture of the bride or a tiny little fine print button that says the same thing it always does?

They're advertising Bride Cactace because it's what they're hoping people will pay for. If Bride Cactace was a bonus as you said, they'd put at least a picture of the normal Cactace beside the Bride Cactace in the ad display

But no, only Bride Cactace is there. Further solidfying that 6* Cactace is just a stepping stone for the desperate.

This is what people see when you open the game, also if you read the msgs that are moving at the bottom of the game, ALSO if you read in the Important Button right there. So please tell me what do you see, i see CLEARLY and READ CLEARLY is a Cactacea 6* WITH a Bonus if you want it, There is the proof of what i been saying.


So tell me my friend where is the missleading about this step up is clearly for the bride and only for the bride when it clearly says Cactacea 6* Also all the past step up gachas ends at step 5 this just got a Bonus if you wanted. But people just rages at everything without looking deep into all.r

Attached pic is all I care to see when I see the gacha machine, which is the only ad that matters because that's what 99% of players will only care to see.

I think you need to accept that this gacha is universally shit. Let's be real, when you offer Bride Cactace as the last step-up of the deal, that's all people are gonna care about. And that's all Nutaku wants customers to care about. The 6* Cactace is just a way to milk more money outta gullible people.

You seem to like to dwell on the word "BONUS."
Remember it's just a word. If you keep taking everything at face value you'll never be able to read inbetween the lines and just get tricked. Nutaku calls it a Bonus, but it's the only part of the deal anyone cares about, because that's what Nutaku wants.

Even in your pics i see perfectly the word Bonus, the offer as i said is Bonus because is not that yet for this version to be out, is not forced like many said, many from us are waiting when all the brides are on gacha in the moment they should (event #16), is up to you if you buy it or not, im not saying if its cheap or expensive that also is up to the buyer what can afford and what can't. You guys doing a big mess over nothing, many just got the cactus 6* and stopped as everyone should others went for the Bride version because they wanted.


Some says are expensive some says they rather waste the 5k gold is up to them. But Nutaku aint forcing anyone to buy her, if you all are crying over all the steps to reach the bride is simple just wait like the rest will do when they are all in the gacha, also others crying because they got Cactus from first guaranteed.. Well that happens many got Hanamomo and Kerria before the guaranteeds of them too and noone did a big deal they just passed away and waited for the next. If you see an Offer theres just 2 options or buy or not buy and wait for the best that suits you . EaB been saying the 10+1 deal is better for him and i accept that for him maybe having those 11 girls are better than the 4 over here, for me nop since this you get or i had the luck to get the rainbow + 2 gold+ silver+ bronze and in the other form i just get to much bronzes on those pulls + the rainbow that i pick.

Originally Posted by Gosara

Blah Blah Blah Bonus, they're not forcing you to buy her

Listen, this debate was never about how people should spend their money or that Nutaku is forcing people or what not. Of course people who don't want to buy it won't buy it, and vice versa, that much is obvious.

What we're supposed to be discussing here is reasons why this deal is crap and why we don't want Nutaku to do stuff like this anymore, which is what the majority of the playerbase agree to. Even you have admitted that plenty of people didn't want to buy the bonus gacha. Which begs the question, why did Nutaku make such a useless bonus deal that angered a majority of players?

This topic is relevant and important because it has implications towards Nutaku's future deals. For awhile now they've been ramping up the step-up gatchas, and there's a real risk the there will be more "early access" step-up bride deals where they further paywall special alternate versions of girls.
Why? For the sake of early access and to make a quick buck, which many consider a pointless rip off.

So once again, I'm curious as to why you think that this step-up gacha is a good deal worth every penny, and provide reason to back up why you feel that way. Help me understand Nutaku's mindset when they decided to paywall Bride Cactace early, and presented this step-up deal to the populace.

If you agree that this deal is actually bad though, then we've come to an understanding.

Or you can chose not to add anything to the discussion and continue to tell me that it's a bonus an that I should not buy it. I'm more than capable of not buying it though, thank you very much.