Attached pic is all I care to see when I see the gacha machine, which is the only ad that matters because that's what 99% of players will only care to see.

I think you need to accept that this gacha is universally shit. Let's be real, when you offer Bride Cactace as the last step-up of the deal, that's all people are gonna care about. And that's all Nutaku wants customers to care about. The 6* Cactace is just a way to milk more money outta gullible people.

You seem to like to dwell on the word "BONUS."
Remember it's just a word. If you keep taking everything at face value you'll never be able to read inbetween the lines and just get tricked. Nutaku calls it a Bonus, but it's the only part of the deal anyone cares about, because that's what Nutaku wants.

Even in your pics i see perfectly the word Bonus, the offer as i said is Bonus because is not that yet for this version to be out, is not forced like many said, many from us are waiting when all the brides are on gacha in the moment they should (event #16), is up to you if you buy it or not, im not saying if its cheap or expensive that also is up to the buyer what can afford and what can't. You guys doing a big mess over nothing, many just got the cactus 6* and stopped as everyone should others went for the Bride version because they wanted.


Some says are expensive some says they rather waste the 5k gold is up to them. But Nutaku aint forcing anyone to buy her, if you all are crying over all the steps to reach the bride is simple just wait like the rest will do when they are all in the gacha, also others crying because they got Cactus from first guaranteed.. Well that happens many got Hanamomo and Kerria before the guaranteeds of them too and noone did a big deal they just passed away and waited for the next. If you see an Offer theres just 2 options or buy or not buy and wait for the best that suits you . EaB been saying the 10+1 deal is better for him and i accept that for him maybe having those 11 girls are better than the 4 over here, for me nop since this you get or i had the luck to get the rainbow + 2 gold+ silver+ bronze and in the other form i just get to much bronzes on those pulls + the rainbow that i pick.

Originally Posted by Gosara

Blah Blah Blah Bonus, they're not forcing you to buy her

Listen, this debate was never about how people should spend their money or that Nutaku is forcing people or what not. Of course people who don't want to buy it won't buy it, and vice versa, that much is obvious.

What we're supposed to be discussing here is reasons why this deal is crap and why we don't want Nutaku to do stuff like this anymore, which is what the majority of the playerbase agree to. Even you have admitted that plenty of people didn't want to buy the bonus gacha. Which begs the question, why did Nutaku make such a useless bonus deal that angered a majority of players?

This topic is relevant and important because it has implications towards Nutaku's future deals. For awhile now they've been ramping up the step-up gatchas, and there's a real risk the there will be more "early access" step-up bride deals where they further paywall special alternate versions of girls.
Why? For the sake of early access and to make a quick buck, which many consider a pointless rip off.

So once again, I'm curious as to why you think that this step-up gacha is a good deal worth every penny, and provide reason to back up why you feel that way. Help me understand Nutaku's mindset when they decided to paywall Bride Cactace early, and presented this step-up deal to the populace.

If you agree that this deal is actually bad though, then we've come to an understanding.

Or you can chose not to add anything to the discussion and continue to tell me that it's a bonus an that I should not buy it. I'm more than capable of not buying it though, thank you very much.

Is not just the early access the way i see it my friend, let me put you another example of how other people see this, if you want a girl nvm which one 6* or 5* you will roll for her right?, So lets say some people just do guaranteeds since the luck in the rolls is horrible in that way for 50$ you get a 6* you want and some extra girls, also some wants the brides, ill put you my example. I want the brides but i am so unlucky and i wont have 1k gems to roll till i get them thats for sure.. so is either buy gems for the 16 event when 64 gems are 50$ and is expensive as hell and is not a guaranteed you get something in return and even less guaranteeds that you get the girl you want. This way you get her. Im not saying is bad or good is just as it is like in any other business all put the offers and is up for the buyer if they do it or not. Thats how i see it, i just here saying this because theres some blaming that thanks to them nutaku will do this.. so Nutaku will do it if you buy it or not, they dont spend a single dime for doing this kind of stuff and theres always someone who will buy them and even if they dont and just stops at the 6* they still win, it will be worse for us if we try to get them at gacha since the $$ wasted to get them will be worst.. that I would wanted to be cheaper of course i would and i bet everyone would agree this.

So what you're saying is there's no reason to put Bride Cactace behind normal 6* Cactace then and is merely there to bump the price up to $110 for desperate people who don't want to roll for her normally in the future.

I'm glad Gosara, that we came to the agreement that this deal is bad and Nutaku should never do something like this again.