Originally Posted by DMAsh

Having been with FKG since it's beta, I've seen all the various gachas that have come and gone, as well as the various gold exclusive deals as well. As time passed, a question kept popping up when I sometimes compare the various gachas.

Have Flower Gems become almost completely redundant (as in worthless)?

Now I know there have been a few good gachas that used Flower Gems, like that 10+1 for a gold ticket, but for the most part, the gold exclusives make the FG gachas look pretty worthless, in my opinion. An example in recent memory being when Lycoris came out in the priority gacha, followed by a gold exclusive deal for her soon after. It got to the point where it seems the hidden message being spoken is 'Don't bother spending gold for FGs'.

With that line of thought, I couldn't help but wonder if others thought the same thing or something similar. But all in all, I just felt like expressing my opinion.

P.S. Kinda wish that 5 Star only gacha for just 5 FGs came back, or even a 6 Star only gacha that had a high FG price.

I think the word you are looking for is obsolete.

The FGs have its place, but rather than converting gold to FG, it's better to hoard FGs in normal play, and then use it on gachas. Whales will never convert gold to FGs, anyway, since they're going to be hedging their bets that gold exclusives could never be made available to the general gacha pool too quickly for lucky players to be able to snag.

Bottom line, for Nutaku, the profitability lies in gold conversion. They actually lose some money on gold gachas, especially if the rates are bolstered high enough, or there's incentives (tickets). This is why they reduced the drop rate on FG gacha, in order to compensate. If you're not a whale or even a casual spender ($50/month), and unless it's a Black Friday like deal, you're stuck with FGs anyway, So this issue is moot.

I have paid for FGs right after i started the game but i won't do that ever again.

FGs are the only reason F2P have some fun with this game even if the rate of getting them is horrible slow. I only pay real Money for guaranteed 6* cause i can be sure to get what i wanted.

If we had the same Login Bonus like DMM the Nutaku Version would be the paradise for F2P and for Whales...

My advice is to hoard FGs for specific 5* in the future.

I don't think it's really worth it to buy flower gems, unless there's a gacha costing FGs with a girl you REALLY want, but generally, the gachas paid with Nutaku Gold are slightly better value for money than buying FGs to play one. (So I'm specifically excluding hoarding free FGs from the game to occasionally play here)

But the game supplies enough Flower Gems to get by: increase Girl capacity, increasing jewelry storage and even occasionally using FGs for stamina (only worth it if you have a high maximum stamina to start with) or pulling a couple of bronze girls from limited gacha.

The game is more generous with its in-game currency compared to Aigis and the likes. I mean we get compensation, daily logins, max affections, and tons of events. I can't even earn more SC in Aigis than Flower Gems i Flower Knight Girl.

Originally Posted by HungryHunter

The game is more generous with its in-game currency compared to Aigis and the likes. I mean we get compensation, daily logins, max affections, and tons of events. I can't even earn more SC in Aigis than Flower Gems i Flower Knight Girl.

compared to DMM we are very gem starved.

I couldn't really get into DMM cos I can't read JP and it was hindering my enjoyment, but I still log in once in a blue moon to collect all those free gems and roll some gachas.

It's not that FGs are redundant/obsolete, but that the Nutaku gold deals have been too commonplace. Which, really, is the next best thing for us, since we can't expect Nutaku to be as generous with free FGs as DMM is. That does have the side effect of intrinsically devaluing the FGs we do get, but again, it's hard to complain about it otherwise.

Cutting off the whale demand just to balance them out with the F2P'ers in a non-PVP game isn't a sound decision, anyway.