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    Quote Originally Posted by Eab1990 View Post
    We had this discussion earlier though (then again maybe it was a different thread, considering this whole thread is a clusterfuck already).

    I think most of us were in agreement that having great deals in November and bad deals in December was too drastic of a change. November likely brought in a bunch of new, first-time spenders, and December probably turned them away just as quickly. It's especially bad to overcharge on "sales" during a holiday spending season when most people's budgets are tight. Cutting down the number of potential whales doesn't seem like a sound strategy.
    Not sure I agree. There really are more than 1 type of "whale".

    First of all, there are the whale whales. These are probably kids of wealthy people, and to them, money is like water. You know there is a limited supply, but you just use it whenever you want without thinking too much about being wasteful. To them, as long as there's something they like, they'll pay. Doesn't matter if it's $60 or $45 or $200. To them, that difference is similar to ordinary folks thinking about whether something is 5 for 1 cent or 6 for 1 cent. i.e, it doesn't matter.

    Then there are the dolphins. These people are relatively generous with their money, but do not have as deep pockets as the former. But then, these people probably aren't going to spend every month either. So better to just sacrifice a month to set up expectations, and then surpass their expectations the next month to make sure they pay.

    So either way, their strategy is good. Of course, all of that is just purely theoretical, you can also have any number of counter arguments against mine. In the end, what matters is actual hard data, which I'm sure they're looking very closely at, and which we do not have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not sure I agree. There really are more than 1 type of "whale".

    First of all, there are the whale whales. These are probably kids of wealthy people, and to them, money is like water. You know there is a limited supply, but you just use it whenever you want without thinking too much about being wasteful. To them, as long as there's something they like, they'll pay. Doesn't matter if it's $60 or $45 or $200. To them, that difference is similar to ordinary folks thinking about whether something is 5 for 1 cent or 6 for 1 cent. i.e, it doesn't matter.

    Then there are the dolphins. These people are relatively generous with their money, but do not have as deep pockets as the former. But then, these people probably aren't going to spend every month either. So better to just sacrifice a month to set up expectations, and then surpass their expectations the next month to make sure they pay.

    So either way, their strategy is good. Of course, all of that is just purely theoretical, you can also have any number of counter arguments against mine. In the end, what matters is actual hard data, which I'm sure they're looking very closely at, and which we do not have.
    Your theory is fairly sound, but EAB's point about the timing still stands, IMO. Holiday season is a really bad time to have terrible deals for pretty much ANY business.

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    I guess Nutaku thought people will prioritize their holiday money with spending on Nutaku because Nutaku is teh BESTZ EVAR at marketing
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    They made a similar deal to Dmm. And apparently, a lot of people bought the same kind of deal on Dmm, Japanese rich af.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorei0sama View Post
    They made a similar deal to Dmm. And apparently, a lot of people bought the same kind of deal on Dmm, Japanese rich af.
    You mean the grab bag gacha? Which had different contents and was three separate gacha instead of a step-up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You mean the grab bag gacha? Which had different contents and was three separate gacha instead of a step-up?
    It was a bit different from step up, but the price was the same. A few people paid 10000 points on dmm and still only able to get one 6* which is kind of waste i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorei0sama View Post
    It was a bit different from step up, but the price was the same. A few people paid 10000 points on dmm and still only able to get one 6* which is kind of waste i think.
    Yeah the 10000 DMM Point Deal wasn't the best deal they ever made ( i prefer deals for 5000 DMM Points) but it was reasonable:

    On Nutaku you had to go through a 10000 Nutaku Gold Paywall to get the good stuff (Step 2 and Step 3). Step 1 was a normal 10+1 pull for 100 $ to be honest. The normal Price is 50 $ for 64 FGs.

    The 10000 DMM Deal included a guaranteed 6* (random), 75 FGs and a Dressbloom and you didn't have to do the other two Gachas (3000 DMM Points and 5000 DMM Points).

    That's much better than the New Year Gacha Crap from Nutaku.

    The current Deal from Nutaku is better than the last DMM Deal though (a lot of people don't want to spend more than 60 $ for a Gacha, including me) but they have to suffer a bit in my opinion cause we suffered an entire month (December).

    Like Ivan said it's not a good idea to fuck up your costumers on holiday season.
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