I was there. See my second line.

If the game dies, it dies. If it lives on, which it will, it lives on. I spend money on the game. I'm just as invested as you, Eab.
But come on, these games die. XOverd was a different game with a different set of circumstances. It's silly to point at it and go, "But XOverd closed." XOverd isn't FKG. It's like being good at soccer, seeing your buddy kicked off the team when he's garbage at the sport, and then worrying yourself sick that you'll be next. Eventually that stress is going to boil over and manifest, like it did this morning.

I mean come on, Nameless left the chat because of the way everyone was freaking out. He gave us something we wouldn't shut the hell up about for months and left in less than 15 minutes because we all threw a fit over it. I honestly feel bad for the guy. It was like watching a man bring his wife a bouquet of flowers but she gets mad because they're not the colour she wanted, so she throws them on the ground and wails until he just leaves the room.

Edit: As mentioned, DMM is always an option for those who genuinely 'HATE' Nutaku's way of handling things.
Secondary point: For the record, I'm of the belief that, yeah. Whales actually do deserve the extra gifts/FGs they might get for whaling harder for TP whoring. Those are the guys that are keeping the game from dying in the first place. Why wouldn't they deserve more when they literally pay for the game to run and be maintained. Let's lose this childish "we should all get equal shares" bullshit for a minute and live in the real world. The guys paying for the rest of us should get more because they earned it.

If you saw it, then you know why people are upset about it. Don't ask rhetorical questions and get indignant when people break it down for you.

Yes, X-Overd isn't FKG. Nobody wants to see a repeat of that. But that doesn't mean history won't repeat itself. Given Nutaku's shitty reputation, it makes sense to be concerned.

Also, Nameless gets no sympathy from me at this point when I tried to pass along a complaint through PM, and he blew up on me just because I pinged him before he even left for work. If he wants to be less involved from the community and to pass the buck to others because of incidents like that, fine, but don't expect me to pity him when it was part of his job in the first place.

Good b8 m8.

I'm saying FKG community is like a prissy wife. This thread is a testament to that.
I've said my two cents worth.

For the record, I would have left after five minutes. Nameless doesn't owe us jack shit, and I'm surprised he gave us that much time considering the reaction he was given to giving us back a feature everyone spent a month begging for.

Originally Posted by Bloodsport Bloom

Good b8 m8.

I'm saying FKG community is like a prissy wife. This thread is a testament to that.
I've said my two cents worth.

For the record, I would have left after five minutes. Nameless doesn't owe us jack shit, and I'm surprised he gave us that much time considering the reaction he was given to giving us back a feature everyone spent a month begging for.

I don't know what kind of bouquet you bought to piss off your wife that badly, but perhaps you should let the florist pick out the flowers for you next time?

Also, the playerbase was "begging" them to give back a feature that was, according to the devs, "mistakenly removed" in the first place. We shouldn't have to beg them to fix what was, at the time, thought to be a mistake.

But then out of nowhere they announced the newer ranking system. So it's obvious they withheld the true reason for removing the old ranking list, probably exactly for the same reason they are receiving backlash now.
So Nutaku, being as transparent as ever (as transparent as the Great Wall of China), withheld information and the real reason for the removal of the old ranking system to make time to force this new one down our throats.

Classic Nutaku move. You're free to continue to excuse their actions if you wish though.

IMHO as a noob, TP ranking is not bad but is not good. It is useless for me because I know I will never EVER be in the top rank. I also don't aim to be the top player coz players in this forum look like GODS to me with their sig full of Level 70 Rainbow girls. If this game closes however I will be pissed.

But why do you guys hate Nutaku?

They provide us with English games. I don't wanna play on DMM - I can't understand Japanese.

What if they read this and ban us??? I mean they know our id's right?

What if Blood is Nameless' brother??? Just joking. LOL!

Originally Posted by Bloodsport Bloom

I mean come on, Nameless left the chat because of the way everyone was freaking out. He gave us something we wouldn't shut the hell up about for months and left in less than 15 minutes because we all threw a fit over it. I honestly feel bad for the guy. It was like watching a man bring his wife a bouquet of flowers but she gets mad because they're not the colour she wanted, so she throws them on the ground and wails until he just leaves the room.

So what your saying is that Nameless is a prissy wife?

Sorry, but if you're gonna designate a dev to communicate with an internet playerbase, you'd better get someone with a thicker skin than one who runs out of a room in...15 minutes... simply because people expressed their displeasure at their game, as is their right as players and potential customers.

Preferably someone that will make more of an attempt to quell player concerns than running away at the first sign of displeasure.

I'll blame Nutaku management again for this one.

Originally Posted by A Time to Screw

So what your saying is that Nameless is a prissy wife?

Sorry, but if you're gonna designate a dev to communicate with an internet playerbase, you'd better get someone with a thicker skin than one who runs out of a room in...15 minutes... simply because people expressed their displeasure at their game, as is their right as players and potential customers.

Preferably someone that will make more of an attempt to quell player concerns than running away at the first sign of displeasure.

I'll blame Nutaku management again for this one.

For that matter, blobz and Tomaa are shit at actually responding to concerns as well. Tomaa basically being a non-entity and blobz deciding it'd be a better use of his time to shit on X-Overd instead of recognizing the same issues are popping up here.

Schverika's the only one who actually took the time to note what the concerns were and why people were understandably upset.

"If a game dies, it dies" is a terrible attitude to have. If a game dies because of bad decisions that could easily have been avoided, then you have every right to blame its publishers, and some degree of concern is warranted here because many Nutaku games already died because of bad decisions.

FKG players are fully justified in throwing a fit about the game potentially taking a P2W direction, because by doing so they may prevent that outcome. If Nutaku gets the idea that implementing substantial rewards for high global ranks will make the game less profitable overall, they will be pressured to abandon their current plans and return to a more user-friendly approach.

Rather than leaving Discord, the best thing Nameless could have done is to reassure the channel that all players will be entitled to whatever reward they will come up with for this ranking business, and follow through on that promise.

i don't like the new ranking system, it's unnecessary.
the old ranking was way better, short and sweet info about your allies.
what does the experience mean anyway?

they should give a monthly task for the whole community (i mean all player) to... maybe make as much damage to a mega boss-like pest with a ton of HP. and depending on the damage, the community inflicted, all get the same awards...

whatever we can hate all we want, i think the nutaku guys give a shit about it and will go with their journey to the gold pot.

it's realy a shame, i like that game a lot

edit:
oh and that post says everyting.

So, ranking-based rewards are implied, but not defined or implemented yet. Thanks.

Well, I guess how much I care about this will heavily depend on said rewards. I see three basic outcomes.

1) Inconsequentials and conveniences. Ampies, Manyu, dragons, seeds, maybe some gems or energy. Maybe 5*/6* tickets or dressblooms for those super high ranks. I see zero issue with this. Let them wave about; it doesn't affect me.

2) Exclusives. Some 5*s or 6*s that cannot be gained unless you rank during a given time period. Perhaps they get added later on for the rest of us in a gacha or a reissue, perhaps they remain permanently exclusive. Not a fan of this, especially if the exclusives are significantly more powerful (or have special abilities, etc) than normal ones. On the other hand, though, it's not like 6*s are normally within my grasp anyway, so... Eh. Don't like, but doubt I'd leave over it.

3) Strong-arm tactics. It becomes harder (or impossible) to get the event 5*s within the alloted 2 weeks if you're not global-ranking-quality. Perhaps they let higher-ranking players regen energy or raid points at an increased rate, and events start to be balanced around THAT, instead of the normal regen rate. Or to put it more bluntly, if you don't pay a minimum of $XYZ a month, you won't be able to do any content well enough to acquire anything. That I would have a problem with, and would likely be a very swift exit for me.

I hope for #1, or at the very least a #2 that opens up to everyone after a few months or so. Can only wait and see though.