So, the new ally list came up today, and it's rightly caused an uproar.

Even ignoring how similar games that catered to whales ended up closing down, even as they were still getting other content (X-Overd being the biggest offender), there are plenty of reasons as to why introducing competition is bad for FKG.

The main issue to deal with is that, by introducing competition into FKG, it no longer becomes the casual waifu-collecting game it's become.

Remember the Xmas ticket fiasco? If you got a gold or a dupe rainbow, and the other guy got a new rainbow, that didn't really affect you vs. the rest of the community. All it meant was that you lost a ~50% roll, and the other person didn't. It sucks, but it's not like you were actively competing with the other person for that waifu.

Now? You have to contend with:

-"I got a rainbow! Oh, but it's just Helenium. Hey, that other person got a rainbow. It's his third Dendrobium. Well, fuck me, I'm never beating that guy now."
-"I put ampies into a 4* or lower girl because she was my waifu. Huh, that doesn't make a difference for my TP? Well, shit, that's 300 ampies down the drain."
-"Stupid people nuking raid bosses. I need equipment seeds to get +10 everything and max out all my units!"

Oh wait, that last one sorta already happens.

Either way, you get the idea. We go from a simple waifu-collection game to an arms race of +10/level 40 4-slot equip Dendrobiums (or Peach, if you want to fall back on golds disguised as rainbows).

Okay, fine, we don't actually know how this ranking system will play out. But there's definitely still cause for concern, especially if it turns out to be a reason for the game's sudden closure.

If you mean 'strenght' Mindrunner already made fun of it to death already. And not just FKG, Nutaku more or less screwed up with most translation and spelling anyway.

Well Guess I'll throw my 2 cents on TP ranking as well.

TP, or I prefer to call power level, is pretty much a gross way to indicate
how strong your team is. But I think synergism is more important. Passive skill that works well together can easily outdamage team with high power level only. So in short... power levels are Bullsh*t! 😆 And I don't care about it too much unless I fall too far behind my allies. Which is not, yet. it's not like you need to fight super strong pest that take 2-3 digits of damage unless you hit with solar blast, to get bloomed materials anyway.

About rewards from global ranking, again I don't mind whales get something better. Like loads of FG, couples of dress/skillblooms, 5*tickets or somerhing like that. They keep the game alive, so they deserved something good. It will be a real problem though, if the rewards are exclusive, something you will never have a second chance to get if you not whale now, and continue to do so on the future. Or like previous post several pages back then said, difficulty got ramped up to fitting whale environment. If they do this, this game can begin its countdown to destruction.

I guess nothing changed... aside from usual Thursday deal. Maybe pick your rainbow or super expensive deal since we just have cheap step up.

BTW... I guess I'll cut some spending until solid answer come from discord then.

DMM version has been worked on for longer so they've ironed out stuff and optimized where Nutaku hasn't.

DMM has lots of other stuff but not sure you would bother with those since it's all Japanese?

As for games, you can rank them by popularity in the online games page and check the top results out.

Originally Posted by MiqDoloran

DMM has lots of other stuff but not sure you would bother with those since it's all Japanese?

This is irrelevant to me since I've played games from everywhere. 90% don't particularly require much translation to play if you aren't big on the story which is pretty non existant in most games and I can always translate if I want to. I used to get Japanese Game Boy ports and such and I find in general I prefer to play the "original" as opposed to the localized version as the original almost always has more content and better support. This is how I got into the Korean MMOs since they were always better than the North American ones which were usually anywhere from 6 months to a year behind.

Originally Posted by Mindrunner

http://harem-battle.club/flower-knig...rning-114.html

Better ask over here about region lock. I have no problems at all, tbh.

Buttons are the same, except for some extra tabs with quests and in the shop.

A whole bunch of links have been posted in the DMM thread that could help you out.

Thanks for the info

Originally Posted by MiqDoloran

DMM version has been worked on for longer so they've ironed out stuff and optimized where Nutaku hasn't.

It's the opposite. The new skins and shit on Nutaku bog everything down.

New ranking looks like Excel spreadsheet. Shit, compared to old one (IMO).
I won't say anything about global ranking, since it's not even in game yet. It might only affect whales, it might drive everyone away from the game. Only time will tell. But knowing Nutaku, and knowing it's their idea... Right now I'm really considering giving DMM a try. Just in case.

And so the beginning of the end.

I was wondering when Nutaku would take their customization and tweaks too far, and it looks like it has begun.

Anyways, later down DMM update line, the TP display was tweaked to include ampies and equipment, so that even public helper squads would visually reflect their true strength.
Food for thought.

If Nutaku FKGs may die, it will die because the lack of free thing-support.

Dying of this game is nigh, if those dev still try to make this game into a Pay2Win game.

Originally Posted by Mindrunner

You think this will kill FKG?

Well not instantly, but it's a creeping disease.

Creeping changes like this are red alerts for me. I've seen it happen time and time again to games that enjoyed healthy popularity. It usually marks its decline, or at least its deviation from the game it once was, and potentially alienates newer players from ever giving the game a try.

They say it's small changes that won't affect anything. But what people don't realize is that small changes like these is what incentivizes further, more drastic changes.

It started with things like the overpriced flower gem shops to buy ampies and even Rainbow Skill/Dressblooms, apparently more options for the whales without effecting the casual players?
Then they built a custom UI that deviated drastically from the DMM UI. At first I didn't know why, maybe they were bored?
But it's obvious now, it's framework for them to add further Nutaku customization. As evident with the Nutaku "Rankings" feature.

The mods on discord claim that players will simply earn rewards based on their own TP and will not be compared to their friends, therefore people will technically lose nothing and get freebies only from it. But then what's that "Global Rankings" button greyed out and peeking to the right of that menu? What reason would we have to plan to implement a Global Ranking feature that even DMM does not deem necessary to have?

It's clear they're pushing for a more "competitive" atmosphere with easier and clearer ways to not only compare each other to friends, but to the entire server as a whole. This is a thin line, because if they aren't careful they may alienate/intimidate/frustrate newer players.
They claim that this won't make the game p2w for now, but Nutaku's history of poor management makes me very cautious and critical of their every decision.

What's to say they won't implement rewards for Global Rankings next? What other reason do they otherwise to include this feature? Kindness of their heart? Nah.
Every decision Nutaku makes is for profit. The overpriced custom flower gem shop was so they could make more money from those willing to shell out the dosh. Their multitude of weekly deals (whether cheap or overpriced) serves to make them more money. And now this custom UI and reward based ranking system is surely for the same reason, to make more money.


Also, remember that shitstorm that was the free [50% Gold Knight, 50% Rainbow Knight] ticket that was givem during christmas. Remember the amount of salt that people had from drawing a gold knight while people around them drew rainbow knights? Even though the ticket was given for free no strings attached?
Doesn't matter if it's freebies with nothing to lose or not. It's a matter of player satisfaction. A lot of players will find competition and will compare themselves harshly to other players whenever they can.
What if super good ranking rewards were only available monthly to players above 500k TP? For example, every month as a player with over 500k TP, you get a Free Premium Draw ticket, or a Rainbow Skillbloom? While players under 500k TP get...iono, 1 flower gem monthly?
It'd leave a bad taste in people's mouths, and would be a clear indication of Nutaku further pandering to whales. Causing furhter frustration ontop of the already existing frustration of inherent to Gacha games, as well as the issue people take comparing Nutaku to DMM, whom give out more monthly freebies than Nutaku.

And while I don't wanna bring up the fact that DMM gives out more freebies than Nutaku as that's more of a size-of-playerbase thing than it is an act of kindness on their part, freebies given out on DMM are still given to every single player, whether you are a whale or a newbie.
Comparatively, freebies from this ranking system on Nutaku will be on a player-by-player Total Power basis, where only the whales will get the best rewards while casuals get less.

A better system would be that freebie rewards become more lucrative depending on the total power of the entire playerbase, and everyone gets the rewards, so that everyone would benefit equally. But that's just a pipe dream because that doesn't make as much potential profit.