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    So I've decided that though Event girls are better in the short run, Gacha would be more useful in the long run because I would eventually come across dupes while doing it. Also as Volarmis reminded me Whale mission exist. I was only thinking about getting a solid team of 20, and forgot I needed more for Whale. But here are my responses to each reply I hadnt gotten to yet.

    Sinister
    I didn't account for abilities in my calculations. I do agree that abilites are needed and that some Event 5*'s abilities suck. Thank you for the information, I'll look more into abilities of both event and Gacha Girls


    Volarmis
    I completely forgot about the whale honestly. And Gacha is the best way to get to doing whales sooner. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

    Taon
    I can't agree that gacha 5*s are "stronger" than Event girls. I mean, yes, if you disregard the fact that event girls have 4 slots and lv.5 skills, then a Max level gacha 5* 1 slot lv.1 skill would be stronger by pure base stats.

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    Hello and welcome, be it a guest or someone that just decided not to log in.
    Taking in account that each new girl can give 3FG's because of 2nd affection, I can see how this system can be quite useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neison View Post
    Taon
    I can't agree that gacha 5*s are "stronger" than Event girls. I mean, yes, if you disregard the fact that event girls have 4 slots and lv.5 skills, then a Max level gacha 5* 1 slot lv.1 skill would be stronger by pure base stats.
    That's precisely why I said gacha 5*s are stronger, not only by pure base stats but more importantly their abilities; the only edge most event girls have are the initial dress/skill slots; most gacha 5*'s with full slots will outperform event 5*s. You can take a gacha 5* to full slots, you can't take an event girl to better stats/skills.
    Last edited by Taon; 11-01-2017 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taon View Post
    ...and for the most part, they are stronger by not only pure base stats but more importantly by skills. The only edge most event girls have are the initial dress/skill slots; most gacha 5*'s with full slots will outperform event 5*s; this isn't even debatable.
    I agree,
    But rolling 3 extra 5* dupes from gacha is a low probability. I wouldn't argue the fact that rolling a 5* would be stronger in the long run. I am arguing that using gacha to get 5*'s was a waste of FGems (which i now understand is not). However, being that as it may, 5* event's will continue to be stronger than a 5* gacha whom have only 1-2 slots. Yes, you could take the equipment that you get from the event and put it on a 5* gacha girl, but unless they have 2+ equipment slots open, those equipments would be better spent on the Event girls. Yes the gacha pool has girls with better Abilities, but it also has ones with just as bad or even worse abilities as some Event girls. Without Dupes 5* gacha girls will never beat Event 5*s.

    TL:DR : I agree, if Gacha 5* has 2+ equipment slots.


    *UPDATE*
    So decided to roll gacha, because yea Gacha isnt a waste of Flower gems.
    What should i use Flower Gems for?-screenshot_gacha_2017-11-02_02-33-06.jpg
    Gacha is garbage.
    Last edited by Neison; 11-01-2017 at 07:38 PM.

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    You did just roll 2 of the best 4* in the game tho... for a new player that is not terrible.

    Also on the gatcha vs Event girls debate. With 100% affection or even 2nd affection now the stat difference becomes very noticeable also most event girls not only have weaker passives but also weaker active skills making that lvl 5 skill not as good as it first seems.

    Example to back up statement:

    Gentian Event Girl vs Hop Gatcha Girl

    12224 / 5484 / 2426 / +3% atk for each nest up to 12% / -10% skill rate for 2 enemies / 20-30% skill chance at 2.2x single target damage

    13672 / 6728 / 2466 / medium dodge / +1-15% atk based on affection / 28-37% skill chance at 2.4x single target and HP Drain

    They are both slice girls, both single target. Hop starts with 28% skill chance and Gentian ends at 30% with rank 4 being 27%.

    1 Equip slot = +1800 stats at max equip level
    4 Equip slot = +5600 stats at max equip level

    so 3800 more stats from equip but Hop is already +2700 up in stats... so over all you get +1100 in stats with bad passives and a worse activate skill that doesn't heal.

    TL;DR: Apart from 3-4 of the first event girls, Gatcha girls are better to have. Only time this is wrong is if they have an OP passive like Geranium and her 1.2x skill activation chance.
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    4*s are of zero help to my team other than I guess Whale missions which I still would not be strong enough to accomplish with them.
    I currently have 3 4*'s and 4 3*'s in my team, which I am trying to get rid of, and I already have 9 5*'s to replace them, once I can get the 4*s and 3*s low enough to push them out:
    What should i use Flower Gems for?-teamcurrent.png

    P.S. I just collected my 58th day log in reward... Does that still count me as a new player?
    Last edited by Neison; 11-01-2017 at 09:28 PM.

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    Well I just collected my 550th a few days ago.... so I guess it does lol.
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    Neison: OMGz you haz Treasure Flower and Rose, gimme them, I wants it -__-

    Anywho, you can only increase capacity so much. Eventually you'll have a surplus of FGs, I say heck with it and roll some Gatchas, that's half of the fun of the game. Or save 'em if there's a specific event coming up in which a girl you want is going to be there. Tho I'm having same issue, save FGs or use them, RNG is a b**ch, just something all of us need to live with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neison View Post
    So decided to roll gacha, because yea Gacha isnt a waste of Flower gems.
    What should i use Flower Gems for?-screenshot_gacha_2017-11-02_02-33-06.jpg
    Gacha is garbage.
    Bad luck on that one, but don't get discouraged.
    As I've mentioned, the rates for good rolls on Nutaku seem to be higher than on DMM (from my own experience).
    Considering that, this roll of yours was just unlucky.
    Well, in the end it is a roll of the dice.
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    It depends. Sometimes I buy expansions as needed. Often times I use them for stamina refils to farm certain things needed. Sometimes I do a 5 gem pull and regret it. Once in a while I go for a period of time not using them at all and save up for a 10+1 pull.

    Most of them do go for stamina refils tho. Right now I'm using them to refil stamina and farm presents. I have a weird desire to max all the girls, even ones I don't use. A waste perhaps but oh well.

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