I wish people would throw away those seedy seeds instead of cluttering with 40 of them during a raid boss event.

So do peeps here think it is better to use the FGs for Stamina regen/material/Whale runs instead of hoarding for an 11 pull? Saw comment on this and how most of the pulls would just be vender trash anyway.

I'm guessing it depends on two factors:

1: Do you have a team of twenty characters in your squad that you like? (And mostly 5* or 6*?)

2: Are you willing to pay any 'real money' whatsoever (even if only a limited amount compared to the true 'whales') for one-time gachas or daily deals that guarantee you 5* or 6*s?

If the answer to both those questions is "Yes" I can definitely see the logic behind preferring FGs for anything but 11-pulls as you're relying on other sources to get the characters you want for your team, and your team's already strong enough without needing extra characters to fill out your ranks.

Well I haven't spent a dime on the game and would like some new 5 ranks and know that getting a 6 is nigh impossible without money. I have plenty of characters from the events that still need development so I guess I can fall back on the 5 ranks.

BTW, I glanced at youtube and saw a supposed guaranteed way to get a 6rank from the free gacha by this method

1.Don't do the daily free pull
2.Take the team through a map run
3.Spend 5 fgs on the premium 1 pull
4.Do free pull a

Well, I envy your financial responsibility.

However, if you're not going to spend real money in the game, I'd strongly recommend you continue to do 11-pulls, at least until you get more solid 5*s. You'll have bad luck with some of them, even most of them, but you have no other way to even have a chance of getting new quality 5* or even 6* girls on your squad.

I've probably went through about a dozen premium 11-rolls with the awful 5* and 6* odds (a few of them I purchased, most of them just through collecting FGs) since I joined and I have gotten two 6*s and at least ten 5*s that way. It's tempting to get down on the 11-rolls when you get unlucky, but it's worth noting that the odds are objectively over 50% with every 11-roll that you'll get at least one 5*. In other words, based simply on the numbers an 11-roll will more likely than not (not always, but probably) give you at least one 5* character that will probably be considerably better than the 'free' 5*s you'll earn through events.

And I'd say that's worth more than stamina rejuvenation if that's the only way you can potentially collect more quality 5* and 6* girls.

Originally Posted by FriendlyFacez

Well, I envy your financial responsibility.

However, if you're not going to spend real money in the game, I'd strongly recommend you continue to do 11-pulls, at least until you get more solid 5*s. You'll have bad luck with some of them, even most of them, but you have no other way to even have a chance of getting new quality 5* or even 6* girls on your squad.

I've probably went through about a dozen premium 11-rolls with the awful 5* and 6* odds (a few of them I purchased, most of them just through collecting FGs) since I joined and I have gotten two 6*s and at least ten 5*s that way. It's tempting to get down on the 11-rolls when you get unlucky, but it's worth noting that the odds are objectively over 50% with every 11-roll that you'll get at least one 5*. In other words, based simply on the numbers an 11-roll will more likely than not (not always, but probably) give you at least one 5* character that will probably be considerably better than the 'free' 5*s you'll earn through events.

And I'd say that's worth more than stamina rejuvenation if that's the only way you can potentially collect more quality 5* and 6* girls.

As much as I prefer saving my FGs for stamina, I can't argue the points you've made (but I'll try!); if you don't want to pay any money at all into the game then without the FG gachas, you will hit a brick wall with just event 5*s...but not as soon as one might think.

A good number of event 5* have decent stats and abilities, and since they are pretty easy to get to 5/5 will definitely outperform most, if not all, non-event 5* who are sitting at 1/1. I'm not sure that a group of 5/5 fully ampied event girls could take on later whaleship missions, but they will definitely get you through all other current content.

But, until you build up a good stable of event girls (don't forget the reissues!), I would probably still argue that FGs are better for stam to allow you to run reissue maps alongside current events. It definitely isn't exciting, but I think would get you the most bang for your FG. Right now, there are 20 permanent-reissued girls to get, one reissued girl and of course, the current event girl. That's more than enough to get you a team of full 5* units with enough variety of abilities and attack types (at least 5 of each attack type).

It does seem that boosting the event jewelry instead of normal stuff(with the silver /gold) plus the second tier of affection(even minus the second h scenes) will get one rather far into whale maps if one does a dedicated 'whale squad', even with 5 rankers

Originally Posted by Taon

As much as I prefer saving my FGs for stamina, I can't argue the points you've made (but I'll try!); if you don't want to pay any money at all into the game then without the FG gachas, you will hit a brick wall with just event 5*s...but not as soon as one might think.

Well, I suspect both you and I have spent real money on FKG, and once you take that route, I absolutely agree; if you're investing in occasional one-use gachas (just never that godawful expensive Black Baccara 6* one) and occasional tickets with daily deals, you should always use your FGs on anything that isn't 11-rolls as you'll A: gradually get the characters you want through tickets anyway and B: most the one-use gachas tend to involve premium rolls (often with better odds) as part of the package deal.

Where I disagree with you is on the event 5* girls. Not that they're not useful -- they're definitely useful in battle. But until recently with new standouts like Eucharis, Trailing Abutilon and Skimmia, the art direction for previous 5* event girls just stunk. I know it's subjective to a large extent and I'm not here to denigrate anyone else's favorite character but it really felt like the FKG team consistently put less effort into the design of many of those characters. I'm not just talking H-scenes, but also battle animations and abilities...it just feels like the 'real' 5* girls have so much more personality and are so much more interesting, and that's even before you consider their better stats.

Add onto that the more than 50% odds you'll actually get at least one new 5* with every 11-roll, and I'd still definitely recommend the FTP crowd roll the premium gacha until they get at least a decent base of solid characters. At the very least, you want an 'A team' (Team 1) of 5* and 6* Waifus with designs and personalities you really like.

I mean, sure, there are 20 permanent-reissue girls to get. But if you're as picky as I am, the vast majority of them won't be nearly as worthwhile as the vast majority of regular 5*s you can roll for. But I guess it depends on your goals with the game -- if you just want to max out your team's stats and have a good enough team to take on any challenge then sure, the event girls will do. My perspective is, FKG is basically a Waifu simulator, so you want to make sure you maximize your chances of getting your Waifus, and that's more important than having enough stamina to churn through every map or fight every battle. I'd rather make significantly less progress in the game with a team of girls I cared about -- heck, as of now I've only done one reissued or permanent reissued event period, and only because I cared enough about Russelia's design (a rare outlier for the event 5*s) to invest to get her.

That's all just my two cents, your mileage may vary depending on why you're playing FKG and what you're looking to get out of the experience.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well I haven't spent a dime on the game and would like some new 5 ranks and know that getting a 6 is nigh impossible without money. I have plenty of characters from the events that still need development so I guess I can fall back on the 5 ranks.

BTW, I glanced at youtube and saw a supposed guaranteed way to get a 6rank from the free gacha by this method

1.Don't do the daily free pull
2.Take the team through a map run
3.Spend 5 fgs on the premium 1 pull
4.Do free pull a

Consider that, if that method in any way actually worked:
1) people here would never complain about gacha pulls since they wouldn't have a need to do them, and
2) the FKG dev team wouldn't make a dime since no one would pay for premium pulls or even guaranteed tickets.

->Open Spoiler<-

To be perfectly clear, that method you saw doesn't work and if it -ever- did, didn't work for very long.