Originally Posted by FriendlyFacez

Well, I suspect both you and I have spent real money on FKG, and once you take that route, I absolutely agree; if you're investing in occasional one-use gachas (just never that godawful expensive Black Baccara 6* one) and occasional tickets with daily deals, you should always use your FGs on anything that isn't 11-rolls as you'll A: gradually get the characters you want through tickets anyway and B: most the one-use gachas tend to involve premium rolls (often with better odds) as part of the package deal.

Where I disagree with you is on the event 5* girls. Not that they're not useful -- they're definitely useful in battle. But until recently with new standouts like Eucharis, Trailing Abutilon and Skimmia, the art direction for previous 5* event girls just stunk. I know it's subjective to a large extent and I'm not here to denigrate anyone else's favorite character but it really felt like the FKG team consistently put less effort into the design of many of those characters. I'm not just talking H-scenes, but also battle animations and abilities...it just feels like the 'real' 5* girls have so much more personality and are so much more interesting, and that's even before you consider their better stats.

Add onto that the more than 50% odds you'll actually get at least one new 5* with every 11-roll, and I'd still definitely recommend the FTP crowd roll the premium gacha until they get at least a decent base of solid characters. At the very least, you want an 'A team' (Team 1) of 5* and 6* Waifus with designs and personalities you really like.

I mean, sure, there are 20 permanent-reissue girls to get. But if you're as picky as I am, the vast majority of them won't be nearly as worthwhile as the vast majority of regular 5*s you can roll for. But I guess it depends on your goals with the game -- if you just want to max out your team's stats and have a good enough team to take on any challenge then sure, the event girls will do. My perspective is, FKG is basically a Waifu simulator, so you want to make sure you maximize your chances of getting your Waifus, and that's more important than having enough stamina to churn through every map or fight every battle. I'd rather make significantly less progress in the game with a team of girls I cared about -- heck, as of now I've only done one reissued or permanent reissued event period, and only because I cared enough about Russelia's design (a rare outlier for the event 5*s) to invest to get her.

That's all just my two cents, your mileage may vary depending on why you're playing FKG and what you're looking to get out of the experience.

Oh, you don't have to suspect; I freely admit to having spent quite a bit of money on this game (mostly on good premium gachas and daily deals).

No argument on the artwork; the only difference is that I don't usually factor subjective things such as artwork along with objective things such as stats and abilities. For a choose-your-waifu(s) viewpoint, yes, plenty of the event 5* are...lacking (but considering that Muppet-girl is a premium 5*, I don't hold the offending event 5* artwork against them). Objectively though, the event 5* are decent enough.

I do want to clarify though, I am not saying that you need -never- to spend FGs on gacha rolls; only that you don't -have to- for a good long while when you're starting out as strictly F2P. Eventually the squads of event 5* aren't going to cut it for doing late whaleship and, if we ever get them, challenge maps. With -very- rare exception, it isn't possible to get non-event 5* and 6* without spending either FGs or money on the gachas, but F2P players starting out shouldn't feel compelled to do either; especially when you consider the odds of getting a particular waifu in the gacha.

Personal anecdote: I spent about 150 FGs trying for Poppy during her event. My first time getting her was when I broke down and bought her with a 5* ticket...since then she's popped up in various gacha rolls 3 times. I spent over $100 worth of FGs chasing a particular unit, during her gacha (boosted rate), only to eventually pay $20 for her. That pretty much soured me on spending FGs chasing particular units in the gacha.

TL;DR: I'll see your two cents and call.

^Art direction.

I agree with this certainly. 2-3 girls are pretty much the same models with swapped hair, although there have been some redos with girls like Di Yu. The whole Waifu things is why I like having different girls in a squad instead of multiple versions of say Peach due to my sad obsession with roleplaying *sob sob*

Originally Posted by Taon

Oh, you don't have to suspect; I freely admit to having spent quite a bit of money on this game (mostly on good premium gachas and daily deals).

Minor disagreements aside I think we're on 'close to' the same page.

For me personally it really boils down to this: If you're spending enough time playing FKG that you're in a position where you're refilling stamina and churning through tons of maps to try to enhance your team, you might as well just invest in some quality daily deals or one-use gachas so you're spending all that time with a team of your choosing that you really like.

Time is money and all, so there's really no sense in investing that heavily into FKG without taking it one step further so you're actually using something close to your ideal team.

Spending a tremendous amount of time playing FKG and praying and hoping for good premium gacha 11-rolls to give you the exact team you want is a terrible idea. But if you're a more casual F2P player who just wants to enjoy some of the weekly events and have some fun with the base functionality of the game, then you might as well spend FGs on premium rolls because you shouldn't be so invested as to need the FGs for stamina or anything else. Either you're casual and gambling FGs to roll a waifu is more useful than the alternative, or you're hardcore and you'll pay to customize.

There's really no sense in being a hardcore F2P FKG player, in my opinion. The required investment of day-to-day time to get anywhere even remotely close to 100% completion of events and whatnot is really only worth it if you're obscenely invested in customizing your personal squad of favorite waifus and that's only possible with tickets.

I'm not saying you have to be the kind of whale who buys everything -- many of Nutaku's deals are complete wastes of money and there's too much fluctuation with cost. Discernment is still a virtue. But I paid something like a measly $5 for my #1 waifu Madonna, and I can't imagine investing 20% of the amount of time I've given FKG without her and a few of my other favorites.

TLDR version: If you're spending dozens upon dozens of hours playing FKG, at one point or another investing real money into the game is actually less expensive then the time you're already investing just for the chance of rolling the girl you want.

Originally Posted by FriendlyFacez

TLDR version: If you're spending dozens upon dozens of hours playing FKG, at one point or another investing real money into the game is actually less expensive then the time you're already investing just for the chance of rolling the girl you want.

Exactly I saw this the first time i bought a ticket deal and i got Victoria. Even if you invest only once in the game, with real money, the experience changes.

In a positive way because when you do that, let's say, buy a ticket, you customize your game experience in what way you want. You want a nice team which benefits from a girl with drain skill? Ok, pick one. You want a nice team which can have a powerful 6* bloom? Ok, pick one. You want a nice team with the main leader of the squad a nice waifu that just looks hot in your opinion? Ok, pick one.

It's not about being a whale and buying every deal or everything. It isn't worth it. It's about making your gaming experience comfortable and enjoyable. Not dependable on luck or RNG , like 90% of the game which doesn't matter so much, except for gacha, but dependable on how you want it to be.

And that choice from my personal opinion, saves a lot of time, a lot of stress and makes the game enjoyable.

I got till now like 7 rainbows, and i really got them because i like the game not because i need them very badly to get over a stage. I mean not even whale. Back to when i had just 3, i already could make the 2nd stage at whale and farm sun medals over and over, using like 80 FG. I eventually got 2 necklaces and even some bloom birds and dragons.

But my overall team is weak ) I have in 2nd and 3rd squad, 2* evolved characters. So i bet that even with just one rainbow you can get over 1st stage at whale or maybe even 2nd if you manage your team evenly.

But the main advantage of paying is pleasure.
You play your game with what characters you want, make your squad how you want it and the rest just comes. Doing events and reissues is just enough to get all the good items for evolutions/blooms/equipment and that's all

I myself am a med student so don't think i have a ton of cash. No sir. But i learned myself the following:

If you love to have something in life, you must invest a lot of resources to get that. Emotions, money, time , you call it. But always remember. Time is the precious one because that you can never get back.

Even if you invest 1000$ in FKG which i dunno can give you i guess over 50 rainbow girls, even if you don't need it. Even if you do that, that 1000$ is never a huge loss. I bet that in 1-2 years you can get the money back, by working or saving money. Or even less time.

But farming and doing everything in the game, just to get all the chances you can , for a better experience in the game, takes a lot of time. And that time, isn't free and won't be returned to anyone.

So, basically. Just do what you can to make your life easier and pleasurable. After all, Gods awaits us all and like Eminem said it.

You only have one chance

I got 50 FG

since everyone is aiming for HCB's favorite furry, I gave it a go

2 new Gold gurls - Im good despite no fox gurl LOL

I had Ivy and Snake Gourd on DMM now I have both on Nutaku - weird

at least, Lilac is done

Since I've been playing I've really only rolled for girls and have 37 none event girls
All together I think I've spent £15 on 3 different £5 deals

Depending on how long you're going to be playing the game you don't really need to worry about buying girls and if you don't really plan on staying with the game then you have no reason to buy girls

5 FG as compensation

Originally Posted by HungryHunter

I got 50 FG

since everyone is aiming for HCB's favorite furry, I gave it a go

2 new Gold gurls - Im good despite no fox gurl LOL

I had Ivy and Snake Gourd on DMM now I have both on Nutaku - weird

at least, Lilac is done

Dx IVY !!!!!!!!!!!!
lucky bastard getting one of my favorite chunibyou's

now to enjoy a hot RP w/ Ivy

Ivy - you want to test your eye against my burning hand of darkness muhahahaha



those are some awesome usernames LOL

Im past 10K sweet, time to buy da new gurl

I don't pay attention to DMM or Nutaku since im so busy

believe it's rare

good day it is