Thread: Which Kamis to go for with Miracle Tickets?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Not sure where you're going with this. Difficult situations are what you optimize for. If it's not difficult, then you'll win regardless so that case doesn't matter.

Ah, it's you again.
Actually, I agree with you on this issue, for almost every sentences, except that you misinterpret my post. I’m really confused as such misinterpretation seemed happening quite frequently given that I don't write many posts on this forum.

Maybe it's my bad that I don't explain everything in detail, but rather assuming people have a little common sense. For this time, I think the term "core KH" already implies that the KH is the core for her own element, or do you think there's one core KH for all the element? Like Sol?:

In my recent posts, I once recommended Aphrodite, and also told another player "depends on which SSR you already have". So plz don't speak like I'm ignoring the context and suggesting everybody to choose Amat or Cthulhu. What I was saying is: if you don't have the core, get the core. Defense / healer comes after that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Though using Amaterasu as an example of a kamihime with 3 good skills, I'm not sure what to think.

Well, this is beyond misinterpretation, literally making up what I never said.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

For the optimal or near-optimal builds I covered, for any off-element where Amaterasu fits, Sol can be subbed with equivalent or better results. Meanwhile Sol fits in Water and Wind builds, while Amaterasu does not.

Forget your own "contextual" speech so soon? Say in a party of the first 3 water SSRs i.e. Shiva, Poseidon and Aphrodite, Sol would fit better than Amat?

Originally Posted by Wanderer

Forget your own "contextual" speech so soon? Say in a party of the first 3 water SSRs i.e. Shiva, Poseidon and Aphrodite, Sol would fit better than Amat?

Check the first part of the sentence you quoted. And why would someone have these 3 SSRs, and only these 3 SSRs, by chance? And why would you run Amaterasu in the difficult content that matters to Water teams, such as Accessory Quests and Ragnarok Disasters? You're creating edge cases for the sake of quarreling, not for solving a problem.

Originally Posted by Wanderer

Well, this is beyond misinterpretation, literally making up what I never said.

It wasn't beyond, it was simply it mistaken identity. I went to gather context from the snippet and ended up mistaking your post with Waniiii's post, who stated it right after. Since you two have a similar name with no avatars, mistakenly took his post as yours. Doesn't help he was the one who replied after.

Regardless, the first half of my post still stands.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Regardless, the first half of my post still stands.

There was a word “nitpicking” in sanahtlig’s last post before edited, which perfectly describes what you two have been doing, possibly that’s why he removed it.

I didn’t bother with your first part cuz this gonna be stating the obvious, but if you insist:

First of all, classifying KHs is a simplification of the complexity of their ability composition, thus I started that paragraph with “In general”.
Atk down, surely it’s a debuff, along with def up, are typically of defense style, e.g. Joan.
Healing and cleanse are healers’ abilities.
Def down, affliction and gauge manipulation are debuffer’s skill, who usually classified as Tricky type in-game, e.g. Mordred.
After all this is just terminology, if you still got different opinions, be my guest.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

You're creating edge cases for the sake of quarreling, not for solving a problem.

Isn’t it you who are actually creating cases and mixing up arguments here? I merely put up a counter-example to your claim of Sol’s off-element superiority in ANY builds over Amat.
Besides, your created cases don’t seem lend much support to Sol, or are you just trying to argue the build itself illegitimate?

Solving the problem is rather simple. Using off-element KH is for her abilities that single-element team needs but can’t provide. It’s a naturally contextual choice. The trade-off among def down, soul and off-element KH is obviously also contextual.

Not for miracle tickets (since I ended to be F2P), but a related question:

I have a non re-rolled account with the following KH

Fire: Ceridwen, Amon, Agni, Baphoment, Hestia, Ignis, Dazbog, Nergal
Water: Nodens, Kikuri-hime, SR Nike, Apsara, Dagon, Oto-hime, Rusalka, Undine
Wind: Cybele, Maeve, Boreas, Puck, Zephyrus
Thunder: Thor, Baal, Nemesis, Indra, Verethragna
Dark: Nyarlathotep, Mephistopheles, Naberius
Light: Metatron, Aurora, Orpheus, Urania

Gacha SSR eidolon is Behemoth.

Is now (holiday gacha) a good time for me to roll gems? Or is there a release bonus that I should be waiting for that would significantly improve my team?

I think my best teams are water (double healer, but my heals are starting to get outscaled) or wind (double attack down, run either full wind or Lilim Luxuria, Aurora, Nyarlathotep) but one good SSR could probably change that. Rolling sooner gives me a higher chance of getting core SSRs like Sol, Gaia, Amaterasu before they get further diluted, so I don't think I should hoard gems, but should I?

Bonus question: have D'Artagnan and Mordred unlocked. What Soul should be next, for your recommended configuration? I'm thinking Joan... she seems to be recommended for a lot of bosses.