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    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    In my opinion Herc should work by far the best with provisional forest, due to the great synnergy with her relic weapon with it. That means, the soul won't be covering any debuffs, besides the def down from the burst effect. Best use for her therefore is f.e. fire, where B frames are covered, A frames generally aren't and they have no other way to get Shingen's pf to work 100% safely.
    Shingen's ATK weapon guarantees that she can get the PF buff when she Bursts. Therefore a Shingen build should work in any situation where a Hercules + PF build works, and has the added advantage of freeing up an EX slot. Given that Ambush (or Sniper Shot) + Vine yields a greater -DEF debuff than Hercules's Burst effect, I don't really see the niche that Hercules fills--unless you don't plan to run PF at all.

    Actually, the main use I'd see of a Hercules build is making do without any source of DEF down at all, e.g., without Light Tsukuyomi. But at that point D'art becomes attractive, and requires a lot less investment.
    Last edited by sanahtlig; 03-27-2018 at 10:30 AM.
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