Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

Kerria Discussion is over. As expected she is the second girl joining the Flower Girl Olymp.
Congratulations

Next Girl:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Cherry
Deadline: 25.07.2018

I think I'm still lack of knowledge about girls in this game.
So I'll step back for this thread.

I have got Cherry during last Christmas Season. I have got her from a Random 6* Gacha Deal. Funny thing is that i wanted a Debuff Girl and got one.
Is Cherry a worthy representative of that archetype? Let's find out

Stats:

HP: 20696
In terms of HP she is in the top 20 of natural Rainbows (to be exact she is rank 20). That's a good start but what about her Atk Stat?

Atk: 7318
There are only 7 Rainbows who have a worse Atk Stat than her. That's bad cause if you want to buff one thing in a Debuff Squad besides the obvious Damage Reduction it's Damage. Her horrible Atk. doesn't do it in that regard.

Defense: 3140
Her Defense is good. Not in the top 20's or top 30's but still good and extra bulk is always nice for Defensive playstyles.

Grading: It would have been nice if she had a little bit more Atk but overall her stat distribution is solid for a defensive Girl like her.
B

Skill Damage and Skill Activation:

Deals 3.8x damage to 2 enemies
At first glance that might look not that impressive. A lot of people prefer either SingleTargetDamage or Full Out AOE Attacks. However Cherry is the only (Natural Rainbow) Debuff Girl with Skill Damage somewhat comparible to SingleTarget Attackers. All other Natural Debuff Girls are AOE Attackers. This makes Cherry unique and she fills a niche in the Debuff archetype.

24% (Lv1) → 34% (Lv5)
The weakest form of Skill Activation Chance for Rainbows. Not bad but nothing to write home about either.

Grading:
That section is good.
B+

Abilities:

This section frustrates me cause the "buffs" she received recently are a joke if you compare them to the buffs other girls got "cough" Anemone "cough" Acacia "cough". She definetely got the short end of the stick.

That's what the devs buffed:

Increases Attack for party members by 15%. --> Increases Attack for party members by 20%
Reduces Attack for enemies by 15%. --> Reduces Attack for enemies by 20%.
They also buffed her Skill Activation Chance cause it was abysmal for a 6* Girl (20% at Skill Level 1 if i remember correctly).

Not really that impressive compared to the buffs other girls received,huh?
Lets take a look at her other two Abilities, shall we?

In a Boss fight, increases Attack for 3 party members, oneself included, by 40%.
I would have prefered if they gave her 25% Atk for all party members instead. I am not a fan of Random Atk buffs cause you want to buff your strongest Nuker Girls in your Debuff Team (Kerria for example). Therefore a Random Atk buff often misses the girl you want to buff. Also in terms of overall Atk Increase 25% for all is superior to 40% for three.

Increases Damage for 3 party members, oneself included, against Bosses by 18%.
Same applies here. Random Atk Buff. Meh.

Grading:
This section is not that impressive to me. Her Atk Buff for the whole group is the absolute standard. Her 20% Debuff to Enemies is certainly nice but there are other girls with that Ability which also have better secondary Abilities. Her other two Abilities are "RNG Heavy" and just don't buff the girls you wanna buff reliably. Also she only has 4 Abilities...
C+

Conclusion:
Cherry has good stats, Skill Damage filling a niche in the Debuff Archetype and two suboptimal Abilities which rely on RNG. She is a decent Debuff Girl and she gets a big plus for being one of the very few Debuff Hit Type Girls. Like Counter there are not many Hit Tye Girls in the Debuff Department. Normally i would have put her in C-Tier (C+) but considering she counts as a rare type i decided to put her in B-Tier instead.

Final Verdict:
B-Tier

Originally Posted by twilightdream

I think I'm still lack of knowledge about girls in this game.
So I'll step back for this thread.

That's sad.
I liked your votes. They were quite reasonable. Also the more the merrier.
You could only vote for girls you personally possess if you want. Nothing beats first hand experience!

I almost forgot Cherry. So, let's go for her on paper.

Stats:
HP: She is on the good side. She don't actually needs them that much but it's good to have a good HP stat for a Debuff girl.
ATK: She is really close to the botom and that's a shame. With better ATK she could be slightly better but... nah. She is very weak on that side.
DEF: Good defense. Not the best but still above the 3k threshold and that's good for me. But like HP, it's not supposed to be her best stat.
She has really nice defensive stats but... she is not a Counter girl. A bit too meh for me.

Skill
x3.8 damages on 2 enemies, 34% skillact.
She is one of the few natural 6* with that kind of ability... and you already know, I don't like it. It can be useful for some Aquashadows bosses but it seems last ones are really toughs. And I'm not sure Cherry was strong enough to fight them.

Abilities
+20% ATk for all
Classic good ATK buff. Always welcome to raise a bit her bad ATK and support friends.

-20% Attack for all enemies
That's her best ability. -20% for all is (if I'm not wrong) the best ability of that kind. Most of them are +15% for all or +20% for two. This made her one of the best debuff girl.

+40% ATK and +18% damages on boss fight for herself and 2 allies
I put the last two abilities toghter because they're very similar. First, why? Why a such good buff for only herself and 2 random girls? With her bad ATK stat and her meh skill, she is not the best to receive theses buffs. Remains 2 allies. 2 RANDOM allies. It's not bad but you can't rely on it to give an amazing buff to your main girl (someone said Kerria?).
She would be far better and reliable with a weaker buff on the whole team. But she only has this. Not bad but it's more a bonus than an ability you will choose for itself.

Team Build
Cherry is not bad but due to her strange stat+skill+ability combo she don't have many team options. Like almost every rainbows you can use her in most teams as placeholder but unless some other 6*, she will not brings something awesome. Even -20% enemy ATKis not that good alone.
Her only true place is in a debuff team where she can have a solid place with her -20% ATK for every pests. And... that's all. And even with that really good debuff, she is outclassed by a lot of other debuff girls.
If you want to use her in single or two boss battles, a girl with -20% on two enemies and better stats/abilities will be better.
If you want to use her in a 3 pests fight, her skill can be a problem if she don't hit the rights targets.

Conclusion
Cherry is a strange girl with almost nothing coherent. She has good Counter stats but she is not counter, she has semi self ATK/damages buff but she is weak and don't have a strong single target skill and she has a really cool -20% debuff for all the a skill not for all.
She could be good if she was more focused on one job instead of trying to be everything but nothing good.

Final verdict:
I'm a bit rude with her. Despite all her flaws she is still a nice debuff girl (and her Bride version is really cute). I will give her a C Tier for her utility in debuff teams. Sorry Cherry.
Note that even her Birde ver. after 6* promotion have the same kind of uncoherent flaws with ATK based on remaning pests and a single target skill. And, just to say, if regular Cherry and 6* Bride Cherry swapped their abilities, they would be both better.

Alright. It's amazing how time zips on by when work is exhausting as it is. I missed out on Kerria but was pretty much in agreement with everyone anyway. She is definitely S Tier material. Now for a quick analysis on Cherry before it's too late. I happened to have some experience with her as I got her toward the end of my time on Nutaku.

Analysis
Cherry actually has some pretty decent stats when you look at her. Her HP is pretty decent and she has very good def, which seems to be a good trait for most blunt rainbows. Her attack stat is the weakest link as it is not terrible, but she certainly won't be the hardest hitting girl on the team. Her skill is roughly standard activation rate and is pretty good as a 2-hit attack. Frankly adorable at the same time.

Now for look at her skills. In some ways they are both great and not so great at the same time. Clearly she is meant to be a debuff focused girl. Outside the standard ATK increase for party members at 20%, she also lowers the ATK of the enemy by the same amount. Very nice. Now comes the part with the pros and cons. The cons are that these following abilities only work for herself and 2 other team mates, leaving the remaining 2 out of luck. This could suck if you want a really hard hitting team mate to get the buff but does. But the positive side is that these are some of the best rates against bosses in the game: increases ATK by 40% and DMG by 18%. So both sides equal out in the end to make her pretty decent.

In the end I think Cherry is a very solid girl to have in any debuff or life steal team you are building. I give her a final verdict of B-Tier

Waifu Analysis
Man! What can I say. Cherry is simply adorable. With her always cheerful expression, she'd brighten any person's cloudy day. She has a cute little bird too. On top of that she is definitely all woman with a very curvaceous and OPPAI body to die for. Her bright green hair stands out attractively to the rest of the cast as you don't see green hair too often. She does have a sad past if I remember, which just makes you want to hold onto her and comfort her even more. Some may think it weird or wrong, but during her affection scene she starts calling you Papa. Nutaku clearly butchered the translation in their way of censoring it but there was no denying what she was saying. It made me really like her because of helping her through that past trauma. This is without a doubt a waifu that I would think be amazing in real life too.

Waifu rating: S-Tier

Ok the Cherry Discussion is over.

Only 3 votes:
2x B-Tier
1x C-Tier

She will end up in B-Tier.

Next Girl:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Pink
Deadline: 30.07.2018

Hmmm... I really am not very active this month, this July is really hellish for me. But now I guess I will take this small opportunity to babbling a bit.

Pink, or Nadeshiko but seriously it's too mouthful so let's stick with Pink. Pink is the character that... cursed with traitor artist so she still doesn't have bloom pic yet. But let's talk about that in extra, now let's go with the usual. Oh and here 'Paper only'

1. Stat: Pink has really awesome atk and it's really high that break 8500 wall. (If you can remember my limit, it's 8000 for atk) great def and solid hp with just 1000 below 20k. Her speed is average so she will fit easily into any kind of team. Pink has a very great stat and it's showing.
Grading: A+

2. Skill: 2.9x on all targets with 34% chance max. Not really good trade off as .1x vs 4% activation, then again her ability will offset this. I guess it's all balanced out.
Grading: B

3. Abilities: Her abilities clearly geared to boss killer, she's more of a sweeper than the main gun however.

25% atk boost is nothing notable, it served its role but if it's not higher than 30% unconditional it's not standing out from others right?

In boss fight however she boost additional extra 20% atk and 15% damage so well, she is fine as a supporter. Especially with the next one, the highlight.

1.28x-1.36x skill activation is great asset and it's rare. The pale part is, however, some girls need the skillblooms more than her. but even at lv.1 it's still better than usual 1.2x so this ability is as great as ever.

Heal 10%HP when pass nest node however, is out of meta a long, long time ago. No one really care about the nest anymore no matter how many of them. This skill is pretty much useless. Might as well delete it.

Grading: B

Final verdict: Pink has a great potential as sweeper in boss fight, open the way for her comrade to get a clear shot on boss. But that's pretty much it about her. She has solid hp and high def but I don't think she will last more than 2 turns against OP bosses. She only has 4 useful abilities too so she lost out to her sweeper comrades. I guess it's B for her. Good to have, but not needed as there are better girls.

Extra: Pink and Christmas Rose shared the same cursed fate that they are both drawn by Wazakita, the traitor artist who abandoned his/her faith FKG and went hiatus. (/jk about traitor parts lol) As a result they both cursed by have no bloom pic for a full year now. Even newer girls got bloom pics one after another. It's a real shame as I do like the artstyle. Very detailed and full of expression. I also like Pink's voice. Very cute and full of passionate as master swordsman in dojo. Her 5* is very powerful and like how maotd actively use her and always said about her power, I stand for his op and have high hope for her RG.

Once again, I almost forgot to rate a girl.

Pink Miko is S Tier. What? We don't speak about Pink Miko but Regular Pink? Okay...

Stats:
HP: Low HP, under the 20k. But she is not a defensive girl at all so, that's not a big problem for her.
ATK: She has the highest ATK stat from all the Natural 6* (with Nerine) with 8644. I'm pretty sure we can say she is good at it.
DEF: Pretty good defense. That's okay.
Low HP are always her weak point statwise. But ATK and DEF are good enough to compensate it.

Skill
2.9x damages to all, 34% skill rate.
2.9x damage is good but only x0.1 damage more than all the 2.8x for 34% rate instead of 37%... meh. It's not a bad skill at all but if she was in the x2.8 / 37% familiy she would be slightly better.
But that's okay anyway. Pink is Pink afterall.

Abilities
Okay let's start with her worst point.
Party members Heal 10% HP when encountering a Nest Panel
Useless legacy from olds times. No harder maps have encouterable Nest Panel. And you don't really need a solid 6* team for Event or Main missions.
Next ability please.

+25% ATK for all
That's, good. Not awesome but good. Most girls have +20 or +22%. +25% is slightly above. I'm ok.

1.28~1.36x skill rate
It's a rare ability and that's a good thing she got it. And that's why she would be better with a x2.8 / 37% skill instead of a x2.9 / 34% one.

+20% ATK on boss fights
That's good but not that much. But that's still welcome anyway.

+15% damages on bosses
Another good thing for her. It gives her a place in boss killer teams.

And... that's all. She is good but she still lack a little something to be better than good. I means, she had a totally useless ability and almost nothing to compensate it. All her abilities are good or very good but nothing awesome like some other natural 6* have (I don't speak about S Tier 6* obviously).

Team Build
With her nice ATK buff on bosses, her damage buff and her good skill act buff, she can be a good ally for boss killer team, or any other offensive archetype if you have a free place. But despite her assets, she is not a really a must have in a specific team out of boss killer (and even in boss killer team, she is a good girl but not an obligatory girl).

Conclusion
Pink is a good girl but less good than Pink Miko (in term of efficiency related to her amount of stars obviously). But she is not bad at all. Her good ATK and her boss killer assets make her a nice ally to have is most teams but she still lacks a bit of adaptability to shines in more than one very precise archetype.

Final verdict:
I wanted to give her a B Tier due to her lack of the little something mentioned above but I let her slip to the A Tier just because she is n°1 in ATK and almost all her assets go in tht way.
I like you Pink, but your Miko Version will always be higher in my heart

Ok this time i am really late to the party. I have to vote cause atm there is only one B-Vote (game) and one A-Vote (maotd) resulting in a draw. Pink was my first Waifu before i discovered Maple. I don't have her on DMM, only on Nutaku.

Stats

HP: 19074
Her HP is on the low side. Not an amazing start for her but she doesn't need that stat as much as girls rocking defensive Ability Sets.

Atk: 8644
She and Nerine have the highest Atk Stat in the entire game. That's beyond amazing and will definetely get her a lot of bonus points.

Defense: 3262
Nice and high defense. Definetely in the Higher Tier.

Grading: To be honest because she has the highest Atk in the entire game complementing her Ability Set and really good defense i will give her S-
here.

Skill Damage and Skill Activation Rate:
Deals 2.9x damage to all enemies 24% (Lv1) → 34% (Lv5)

It's the bare bones form of AOE Damage and Skill Activation. Not bad, not amazing. The variant featuring a little less Skill Damage but more Skill Act Chance would have been better for her considering her Ability Package. More Skill Act. Chance would have been nice in conjunction with her superior Skill Act. Ability.

Grading: B

Abilities:

Increases Attack for party members by 25%.
Good and Solid. 5% more Atk than average.

Increases Skill Activation Rate for party members by 1.28~1.36x based on one's own Skill Level (1~5).
The Superior Skill Act. Amazing Ability. You have to invest 4 Skill Blooms but it's definetely worth it. Definetely her best Ability in my opinion.

In a Boss fight, increases Attack for party members by 20%.
The most difficult maps are all based on hard boss battles. Therefore this Ability is really usefull.

Increases Damage for party members against Bosses by 15%.
Again really usefull. The more Atk. Buffs she received the better the Damage Boost gets.

Well her Ability Section looks amazing so far. 4 Highly usefull Abilites. What can possibly go wrong with her fifth Ability,right?
Yeaaaaaaaaaah...Sigh...

Party members Heal 10% HP when encountering a Nest Panel.
Unfortunately for Pink she still possesses an Ability which is extremely outdated by now. The Meta where you needed Girls soaking up Pest Damage is long gone. Yeah that's her weak point.

Grading: Unfortunately her Nest Panel Ability drags down her overall Rating in this section. Still it's worthy of B+

Conclusion:

Pink qualifies as a nice Sweeper Rainbow with Support Skills catered towards Boss Damage Teams (she can also fill the gap in many more Archetypes, she isn't the optimal choice though). She has godlike Atk and nice Defense. Unfortunately her useless Panel Ability gimps her overall Rating a little bit. For me she is somewhere between B+ and A-.
Since i am a big fan of the Superior Skill Act. Ability (look up my Red Ginger Vote for reference) and i am extremely impressed by her Atk i will let her slip to A-Tier as well. She is definetely one of the weaker A-Tiers so keep that in mind.

Final Verdict: A--