Friend ID Thread

[A Time to Screw]

Edit: Now that I think about it, it'd actually be super interesting to see how all of our squads look before and after when affected just by the scaling system alone. Pics plz!

Incase you're still interested, here's how your squad looks to me right now.



I'd appreciate it if you could do the same for me. I have a feeling that including my favourite bronze girl on my team really fucks with my public image.

I also just realized that we'd need a max level rainbow unit ourselves to see the true power other Helper squads with rainbow units.
RIP

[Zandel]

Unless none of those girls have affection at all, there is no way his power for them is only sub 80K. I'd guess closer to 110-120k if they all have 100%.

[Ancarius]

I switched my helper Team back to the original since most people on my Allie List, should have already be finished with the Skillblooms. Also the Team has now 8k more Raw Power so it should equal out.

On another Note:

Strangly i thought that the level would be my Level (54) +3, but your Girls seem to be downscalled a lot.

[Nydaomond]

Strangly i thought that the level would be my Level (54) +3, but your Girls seem to be downscalled a lot.

The level cap is equal to your highest level girl, not your own level; and evolved girls' level count as their current level for this purpose, not the level they had pre-evo. Very good reason to max an evo gold asap, it is.

[Ancarius]

That would the change in the level explain, as i would push a character to max level and then reset them to evolve, then push to 40 and stop.
Reason i stoped at 40, or try to focus evolving 4* in general, being the skyrocketing exp requirements from 40->50. Bringing a 4* from 1->40 requires ~45k Exp, and then the next 10 Levels need 35k in total, that is almost the double. 5* need lvl 60 to evolve which is from 50->60 45k Exp, ignoring ~90k Exp needed to boost them to 50 in the first place.
Those 45k Exp to make a 5* ready for evo, are enough to boost a freshly evo'd 4* to 40 already, which is a way higher Power gain in total.
Only reason i evo'd Edelweiss and lavender as soon as possible was their potential strengh with the 5/5 Skill and 4/4 Slots. Lily was only done because i jut had 2 4* Pierce to push.

But anyway, thanks, good to knwo how the H Squads of other people scale.

[MiqDoloran]

The level cap is equal to your highest level girl, not your own level; and evolved girls' level count as their current level for this purpose, not the level they had pre-evo. Very good reason to max an evo gold asap, it is.

Or you could just be like me and have a bunch of units perpetually waiting on the right dragons.

[Ancarius]

Just a quick question. Since every enemy in the new Ultimate Map is weak to Blunt Damage, acording to the wiki page at least, wouldn't it be more usefull from my side to switch them all to Blunt, for the most part?

You can see my current Helper Squad in my Signature.
The one i would maybe take is this one.

I took Lavender inside, since she is my strongest and the 5th Blunt Type (Evo'd Dandelion lvl 40) would be to weak to make a difference with the Weakness "Buff".

That is still a suggestion, so i would like to hear your opinions on it and if you would use such a squad over other H Squad with propably 20k-30k more Raw Power?

[Zerana]

Hey all.

Here is my friend ID and current helper squad.

818588405


Needs a bit of work I know, but I'm sure I will get there soon. Got a few open spots right now and hope to fill them up with all you great people. ♥

[Corintis]

Incase you're still interested, here's how your squad looks to me right now.



I'd appreciate it if you could do the same for me. I have a feeling that including my favourite bronze girl on my team really fucks with my public image.

I also just realized that we'd need a max level rainbow unit ourselves to see the true power other Helper squads with rainbow units.
RIP

Oh sorry, I was off the forums for awhile. Here:



It's actually not bad at all in terms of Total Power; Rose is a surprisingly strong bronze rank. And if we want to find the total power of a Rainbow Squad, we just have to re-add the affection bonus of units back into a helper squad already on our ally list; aside from Ampys and level scaling, there's no other variables that come into play on the display screen. I'll just use the strongest helper squad on my ally list as the example:



Re-add 26,352 Affection Bonus points for all 5 units onto the existing 83,760 Total Power, and the real total becomes 110,112 (not including any Ampys the player may have used.

- - - Updated - - -

Was curious so I logged numbers from the first pest fights of 12-5 over 2 runs, since they only do normal attacks:

->Open Spoiler<-

First Run
Everyone but Edelweiss gets 12% def buff
929 - Bipinna (Important)
478 - St Paulia (Junior)

Everyone but St. Paulia gets 12% def buff
1119 - Orchid (Important)
570 - Orchid (Junior)
979 - Canola (Important)

Everyone but Canola gets 12% def buff
914 - Edelweiss (Important)
449 - Bipinna (Junior)

Second Run
Everyone but St. Paulia gets 12% def buff
461 - Canola (Junior)

Everyone but St. Paulia gets 12% def buff
913 - Bipinna (Important)
474 - Canola (Junior)

Everyone but St. Paulia gets 12% def buff
430 - Bipinna (Junior)

Base Defense + Equipment Defense
Edelweiss - 1720 + 691 = 2411
Bipinna - 2220
Orchid - 1750 + 111 = 1861
Canola - 1576 + 619 = 2195
St. Paulia - 1480 + 690 = 2170

Enemy Attack Values
Important - 3125
Junior - 2138

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So it's more complicated than that (otherwise high defense would actually be really good) and there's a damage range or random factor. I know with enough defense you can end up taking only 1 damage from stuff though.

EDIT: Also, my Orchid has 550 less DEF than my Edelweiss (616 less DEF with Bipinna's buff), but is only taking 205 less damage from Important (less than a 20% damage decrease). St. Paulia has 5300 more health than Cepha Lanthera but 660 less DEF. With similar scaling, Cepha is going to go down 2-3 turns earlier, which is often a full extra battle earlier.

Now we're talking. Since you've been able to record all these numbers, you think you could do the reverse and figure out some rough values of enemy HP, and/or even Defense values? Generally, the units with higher Defenses also usually have higher attack values to go with them (and sometimes, Atk Abilities as well), which could very well end the fight just as quickly enough to reduce the damage taken.

[Ancarius]

You can see the values on the wiki page for the map.
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower...e-Shrine-Demon

Most enemies have around the same Def/Att values, just the bosses have way higher HP to tank. Thats why like a h Squad with one Edelweiss, to get some Healing from the Nests, 1 Piercing for the Caterpillar at the end, since it has low HP but the same Damage Potential as the main Wasp, and then at least 2 Melee (if possible 3) to use the weakness that most every other Boss has.

On another Note:
i asked some days ago if it would be useful to change my H Squad to mostly Blunt ones, since every enemy in the Ultimate Map has Blunt weakness. I know that the Bosses don't all spawn, which reduces the required amount of Power needed to beat it consistently, after all it needs 120 Stamina.

I would really take some feedback, if players even look what the h Squad has inside and not just go with Raw Power. Otherwise i would just stay with my standart squad and never change it, which kinda destroys the purpose of this thread. :/