I've had luck (after countless tweaking) with Squad 1, Squad 3 with a Speed of 313 and 316 (i think it must be 311~312 at least, but i'm not sure: 313 is safe; Speed shouldn't be more than 320), Squad 2 and Squad 4 with a Speed of 556 and 560 (should be 550~560, but should be no more than 560), and the slowest helper you can; this way, you're guaranteed that Squads 1, 3, H will turn right at the first fork (they barely make it, but they make it), and being slower they give you more time before one of them finishes the map, if they go towards the end right away; Squad 2 and 4 will circle down south, and hopefully make it in time to the center, being faster.

The 311~313 min Speed is sort-of the minimum to reach the first fork in two moves; the 560 maximum Speed is sort-of the maximum to not reach the first fork in only one move (probably could go a little bit faster, but i didn't want to test my luck further).

This said, it still took me a total of ~10 runs, but i got it second time with this setup and some luck. No guarantees it will work if the RNG really hates you though (in fact, i still failed the first), but it's as close to minimizing the random-factor as i could make it.

EDIT: As a sidenote, i have no clue about the Squad Power required. The Boss in the middle seemed to deal damage based on % of current HP, but other than that, all my Squads had 30k+ Power and breezed through the map. I'd probably say 15k~20k Power or so each Squad, just to be safe.

Originally Posted by Nydaomond

I've had luck (after countless tweaking) with Squad 1, Squad 3 with a Speed of 313 and 316 (i think it must be 311~312 at least, but i'm not sure: 313 is safe; Speed shouldn't be more than 320), Squad 2 and Squad 4 with a Speed of 556 and 560 (should be 550~560, but should be no more than 560), and the slowest helper you can; this way, you're guaranteed that Squads 1, 3, H will turn right at the first fork (they barely make it, but they make it), and being slower they give you more time before one of them finishes the map, if they go towards the end right away; Squad 2 and 4 will circle down south, and hopefully make it in time to the center, being faster.

The 311~313 min Speed is sort-of the minimum to reach the first fork in two moves; the 560 maximum Speed is sort-of the maximum to not reach the first fork in only one move (probably could go a little bit faster, but i didn't want to test my luck further).

This said, it still took me a total of ~10 runs, but i got it second time with this setup and some luck. No guarantees it will work if the RNG really hates you though (in fact, i still failed the first), but it's as close to minimizing the random-factor as i could make it.

EDIT: As a sidenote, i have no clue about the Squad Power required. The Boss in the middle seemed to deal damage based on % of current HP, but other than that, all my Squads had 30k+ Power and breezed through the map. I'd probably say 15k~20k Power or so each Squad, just to be safe.

Thanks for those speed numbers, that was exactly what I was looking for. Got it in 4 more tires after switching to that setup. I'm still not too happy with how much stamina this sucked up, but I guess I got a lot of gold without getting any manyus to give me a gold buffer for evolving...

I have finished the first part as well, yesterday. Regarding the last map I did nothing at all, my Teams had all a Speed around 400-500, and after several failure it ended well.

Map ?-4 is just pure RNG, really. You press a button, pray RNG goes well and that's it. Sure, you can try to tweak so that slower teams go upwards "in case" the faster teams go down and manage something there, but i cleared the map with having my 600+ speed 1st team just run around everywhere and RNG goodness everything in existence. In the end, horrible RNG won't help you clear that map no matter what you do.

Eh, worst case scenario it won't help, but it's not like it's harmful to try and minimize the randomness, right?

... 'sides, at least for me, it feels better to try something different and fail, than to keep going as-is over and over again >.>

Well, if you want to try to make RNG better then you'll want the first team to be super fast and pray for them to not go up. At that point they will run across the whole map and probably catch a few objectives before any of your slower teams even get past the spider webs.

If it goes up, though, it's over - if 1/3/H are slow enough, on the other hand, you can at least have a shot at the RNG, even if one or two go up... That said, if your teams start going up during the first round trip, the RNG probably hates you to begin with.

Originally Posted by Lied

Is there a trick or a good speed number for squads that people used for the 4th map, or is it just pure rng? I've dumped basically a day's worth of stamina into it now and my units just aren't hitting the right nodes, and as soon as any of the squads gets to the top path it puts a clock on when the map will end.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

Map ?-4 is just pure RNG, really. You press a button, pray RNG goes well and that's it. Sure, you can try to tweak so that slower teams go upwards "in case" the faster teams go down and manage something there, but i cleared the map with having my 600+ speed 1st team just run around everywhere and RNG goodness everything in existence. In the end, horrible RNG won't help you clear that map no matter what you do.

I did this map on about 4 goes, the RNG was strong with me

In the end I used 4 blanced ish squads with speeds ranging from about 400 - 500 and just put it in the lap of the gods

I don't think that's about all you can do, may help to have 2 slightly faster for the longer run ins, but it's not a must have as I ensured 1st one to the boss would not kill it

Still getting owned by rng on ?-4 but in case anyones struggling with ?-3 you can use 2 squads, both slow (300~), and a 1 fast one (550+) to clear it. Just put the 2 slow ones in the middle spawn and your fast squad in the bottom one.

I kept having one team go through the bottom top passage with 2 whirlwind nodes and clearling the map before someone got through the webs

Originally Posted by nip101

Still getting owned by rng on ?-4

At the very least you're filling up your purse. That map is just lel