Originally Posted by Dorei0sama

There is little chance they ll decrease the price. 9000 nutaku gold for fully equipped fkg is even more expensive than the recent step up gacha right?

No i think it's the same:

If you do all steps in the Lycoris Step Up Gacha it costs 90 bucks...same for 3 Dressblooms...
But in all honesty: A new 6* Girl > 3 Dressblooms in my opinion cause your Harem growth...

Only for my Waifu i would buy this...maybe

It's right that Dressblooms are rare in the DMM Version but they can get those ingame and they get a lot more gems compared to us...That's the most annoying thing we have to deal with atm. in my opinion.

I think the next amazing deals will be next year in November...

They get a lot more gems, but we've gotten way more rainbow gachas than they've ever had. Maybe 11-roll guaranteed gold gachas too.

It's always been the case that Nutaku FKG caters to whales more than DMM FKG, but it's been fine because their value has been relatively on-point (bridal Cactus gacha being their only real WTF, and at least they tried improving step-up gachas from that point, as well as giving us a great bridal Oncidium gacha) and they don't completely leave free players in the dust.

After Aigis, you should pretty much expect to not get as much free stuff as DMM does, unless the game is dying from a lack of content updates (i.e. Kanpani). And even then, Nutaku Aigis really could've used a good 200+ SC compensation for all the shit Dev Tea has pulled in the past almost-two years. FKG in comparison is a godsend.

But these things still have a given value. If you went around asking how much rainbows were worth or what the Black Friday sale for rainbows would be, you'd be crazy to think that it'd be $10 for a single roll, let alone the 11-roll we actually got. Most people (myself included) were expecting a $30 single roll, because rainbows are normally worth $50/60.

So even if you don't place a high value on dressblooms (or equipment in general), to say that they should be worth 1/6 and not 1/2 of their normal price is silly.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Where are you getting this indication that dressblooms are worth less than $30 to begin with? The few times it's been available, it was either $5 for an extremely small chance of rolling it in a 4-roll, up to ten tries, or it was $30 itself in the current gacha. And that's AFTER spending $60 for Dogwood/Lycoris herself, so the rainbow dressbloom is actually $90 or anywhere from $63-110. Then again, I don't even know how it works in this gacha. If it's a 50% chance, you could just end up getting a skillbloom instead of a dressbloom.

Otherwise, you're paying $50/60 (or $30 for golds the one time they offered it) for a dupe in the guaranteed gachas, which may or may not also give you a skill up, but will definitely give you the equip slot.

In other words, you're currently paying roughly twice as much for the dupe. For just the dressbloom, slightly over half (or exactly half for golds) of that price is not a bad deal. I don't know why you're expecting them to cut that price down to 80-85% off. You've gotten too used to Black Friday sales if you think that's going to be the norm anytime soon.



According to anon, "Equally rare as fuck, as far as I remember. But I admittedly have a really shitty memory."

ofc that is the price i think would be better and more honest since their primary goal is to make money and not make players like the game and more like to make them spend money.
if there was a contest bet ween my price and theirs i would definetly make more money then them and make more players happy to have more then their single waifu to be 100% complete.
i didnt get used to the black friday sales at all and i just hate people who puts making money over everything and ruin games experience thats all.
and to be fair the 1000 gold for 6* was really good but the normal price for single 6* would have to be 3000(no 10+1 pull included)imao and the 6000 for step up is good enough since it is also good for new players that need 4* too.
if they would just lower prices they would have more succes and they would make more money too but greed has always been human's sin.

DMM's rainbow sales are normally 5000 points for an 11-roll + ticket as well, so I don't know why you'd expect ours to be cheaper.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

DMM's rainbow sales are normally 5000 points for an 11-roll + ticket as well, so I don't know why you'd expect ours to be cheaper.

because i always hope that not every game manager is dead set on making money out of the players,but they would also make their games a more enjoyable experience for everyone.
dont think too hard about; this will probably remain my child's dream for ever,since we live in a world ruled by money =/

It's simple

For F2P:

DMM FKG > Nutaku FKG cause the DMM Players get more gems and F2P don't give a fuck about Special Payment Gachas anyway.

For Whales:

Nutaku FKG > DMM FKG cause you have more options to whale there.

For occasional spenders like me it's very difficult but i have already spend to much money on this Version so i'll stick with it.

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Originally Posted by noheart09

because i always hope that not every game manager is dead set on making money out of the players,but they would also make their games a more enjoyable experience for everyone.
dont think too hard about; this will probably remain my child's dream for ever,since we live in a world ruled by money =/

Yeah i know what you mean. There was an era (late 90's) where Game Developers always wanted to make there customers happy. These days are gone...

Not sure how you can even consider being optimistic when the concept of mobage itself goes against the "good old days" you're thinking of.

*Real* games wouldn't limit their gamers/customers with stamina and gacha systems. FKG succeeds because it puts work in its waifus and shows it values its players, even if the gacha rates are abysmal otherwise. Kancolle succeeds for similar waifu reasons. But the money-making motive is still there, just not blatantly at the forefront.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Not sure how you can even consider being optimistic when the concept of mobage itself goes against the "good old days" you're thinking of.

*Real* games wouldn't limit their gamers/customers with stamina and gacha systems. FKG succeeds because it puts work in its waifus and shows it values its players, even if the gacha rates are abysmal otherwise. Kancolle succeeds for similar waifu reasons. But the money-making motive is still there, just not blatantly at the forefront.

I don't play a lot of browser games, FKG and Kancolle are the only games I've spent more than a month playing, but isn't Kancolle quite a bit different from the average stamina based browser game like FKG?

I've played Kancolle for a much much longer time and the only thing I've ever spent money on is more character slots so I can complete my collection. And I can generally clear hard or medium for events. The difference I see is that you can get all the girls (except certain event girls, which even then tend to become available easily through a later date) through some form of construction or map farming, which isn't limited by the number of "gems" you have or whatever. Also it's so much easier to play Kancolle for like 10 hours because you can just rotate out tired girls and work on different things because there's no commander stamina.

Not gonna get into the argument about pricing between nutaku and dmm, since I'm not experienced enough for that mess.

If I'm not mistaken, Kancolle's money-maker is probably from marrying multiple shipwaifus (and the whole multiple construction thing?). Since you only get one free wedding ring and all.

But the point is, both games are freemium-friendly and are successful because of it, just that they go about it in different ways.

Almost all games are pay-to-waifu though. Just Kancolle is more of a pay-to-multiple-waifu.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

If I'm not mistaken, Kancolle's money-maker is probably from marrying multiple shipwaifus (and the whole multiple construction thing?). Since you only get one free wedding ring and all.

But the point is, both games are freemium-friendly and are successful because of it, just that they go about it in different ways.

Almost all games are pay-to-waifu though. Just Kancolle is more of a pay-to-multiple-waifu.

Oh yes, you're right about that. I forgot, since I have no intention of marrying multiple just for the stat buffs. Concerning construction and repairs, you have two slots available for both (which is perfectly manageable), but you can pay for two additional slots.

And yes, I see what you're saying about freemium games. I have no problems with either game right now.