Originally Posted by Meister

So I reran 11-1 just to see what's in there since completing it I never looked back, and I just cleared it again with all pest encountered. If this helps, I ran the map without changing anything and with slow squads(420-540 speed), the helper is faster than my 1st squad. But it seems that the real major problem in that map is RNG and if it's the case then my above advice will be just a little help or not at all.

That's the exact strategy I'm doing it with, standard setup with all units (including helper) under 500 speed. Basically I'm just having bad bad luck in that my units always end up going one of the paths wrong, but if you managed to complete it so easily then you're pretty lucky what with it being a 0,78% chance.. x)

Originally Posted by Rupturez

Edit: And I only will attempt missions if I have atleast 80 spare stamina after completing it to be able to do the secret garden if it spawns.

Hm, I've been ignoring those 80 stamina secret gardens because of the cost and because I want to complete all of Mission 11 before starting to farm 12-3.. Should I stop doing that and instead always do the 80 stamina secret when it pops up?


Edit: Worst part is how they always make sure to go ALL possible paths except for one, so as to waste as much of my time as possible. And they always fail at the "last" RNG arrow, keeping my hopes up until the very end: http://i.imgur.com/y9JbGDC.png

I usually 3*d all maps but when i reached the 10th area i decided to just push on to 12-3 and stop there.

Currently, a few weeks later, i have now 3*d all the maps.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

I usually 3*d all maps but when i reached the 10th area i decided to just push on to 12-3 and stop there.

Currently, a few weeks later, i have now 3*d all the maps.

This. I used to keep replaying maps to get 3*, but a lot of the map 10 areas are a pain (well 10-5 anyway) and I didn't want to spend a lot of time replaying map 10 stuff when map 11+ spawn the better gardens.

Same for me, but I stopped doing 3* at 8-2. I think that was the one with a huge difficulty jump and there was no way for my team to clear it unless I stacked everyone on one tent.

Yeah, pretty much the same, at first i stopped 3* at maps 8 or 9. Then i started using my leftover stamina for some tries to 3* them eventually, also, because i wanteed the gems for limited 2. And for maps 11 and 12 i just farmed them for the garden untili got the 3 stars.

I'm still missing 12-5 due to lacking a tiny bit of power to 3* reliably (i could bruto force it until all goes well though), and 10-5, becaue 10-5 isa rel pain and 50 stamina gardens suck.

By the way, may i know how are you calculating those 0.78% odds ? As far as my calculations go, you need to win 4 coin flips in a row, so that should be 1/16, or in other words, a 6.25%. Still pretty darn low though

Originally Posted by kojaku

By the way, may i know how are you calculating those 0.78% odds ? As far as my calculations go, you need to win 4 coin flips in a row, so that should be 1/16, or in other words, a 6.25%. Still pretty darn low though

Well, I thought there was a total of 7x random-direction nodes that I need to pass. 0,5 times itself 7 times is approx. 0,0078. But I actually just noticed that the first RNG node (bottom left) is irrelevant as both paths lead to the first mob (hadn't noticed), so I guess it's a total of 6, in other words 0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5 = 0,0156 = 1,6%. We're doing the same math, I'm just writing it in a less than "intelligent" manner, but I'm sure you understand. But, there aren't 4 coin flips, there are 6 coin flips in the level.

Hm, wait, I might be thinking about this all wrong.. Basically I multiply by 0,5 for each unit that passes a 50/50 node. There's two paths at the top of the map, that's 0,5*0,5. Another two paths at the very bottom, 0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5. And finally I need two units to actually get down TO the fork at the very bottom, so that's another two: 0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5 = 0,0156 = 1,6%. If I'm way off, I'm sorry! ;;




By the way, thanks everyone for your input. I now know how to proceed with the missions, and I'll be sure to never skip the 80 stamina secret garden!

For me the 12 maps were easier to clear then the 11's... I have all maps lvl 1-9 clear and all but 10-5 on lvl 10 as well as all lvl 12 but only 11-4 is clear in the 11 set.

I'm interested tho, is doing Normal missions and hoping for the 80 stam secret garden better then running the 80 stam manyu missions on those days?

I've been doing the manyu missions myself but i've always wondered about it.

Originally Posted by JessMini

But, there aren't 4 coin flips, there are 6 coin flips in the level.

This is where the problem is. There are only 4 coin flips. 2 to get to the bottom fork, and then 1 at each fork.
The first squad to get to a fork does not count, since either direction is ok.

That's odd, 11-1 is the only one in the 11 series that I've 3-medaled. Did it the first time and only looked back at it after reading this thread. And I JUST finally got 10-5 completed today...that was the hell map that made me switch from getting 3 medals on every map before going to the next one.

In addition to the rest of 11, I have 2 more to 3-medal in 12 (plus a smattering of maps in the daily category) before I can totally retire to 12-3 farming.

Originally Posted by JessMini

That's the exact strategy I'm doing it with, standard setup with all units (including helper) under 500 speed. Basically I'm just having bad bad luck in that my units always end up going one of the paths wrong, but if you managed to complete it so easily then you're pretty lucky what with it being a 0,78% chance.. x)




Hm, I've been ignoring those 80 stamina secret gardens because of the cost and because I want to complete all of Mission 11 before starting to farm 12-3.. Should I stop doing that and instead always do the 80 stamina secret when it pops up?

Always do the 80 stamina SG, they give lods of gold manyus!