Originally Posted by kojaku

By the way, may i know how are you calculating those 0.78% odds ? As far as my calculations go, you need to win 4 coin flips in a row, so that should be 1/16, or in other words, a 6.25%. Still pretty darn low though

Well, I thought there was a total of 7x random-direction nodes that I need to pass. 0,5 times itself 7 times is approx. 0,0078. But I actually just noticed that the first RNG node (bottom left) is irrelevant as both paths lead to the first mob (hadn't noticed), so I guess it's a total of 6, in other words 0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5 = 0,0156 = 1,6%. We're doing the same math, I'm just writing it in a less than "intelligent" manner, but I'm sure you understand. But, there aren't 4 coin flips, there are 6 coin flips in the level.

Hm, wait, I might be thinking about this all wrong.. Basically I multiply by 0,5 for each unit that passes a 50/50 node. There's two paths at the top of the map, that's 0,5*0,5. Another two paths at the very bottom, 0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5. And finally I need two units to actually get down TO the fork at the very bottom, so that's another two: 0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5*0,5 = 0,0156 = 1,6%. If I'm way off, I'm sorry! ;;




By the way, thanks everyone for your input. I now know how to proceed with the missions, and I'll be sure to never skip the 80 stamina secret garden!

For me the 12 maps were easier to clear then the 11's... I have all maps lvl 1-9 clear and all but 10-5 on lvl 10 as well as all lvl 12 but only 11-4 is clear in the 11 set.

I'm interested tho, is doing Normal missions and hoping for the 80 stam secret garden better then running the 80 stam manyu missions on those days?

I've been doing the manyu missions myself but i've always wondered about it.

i´ve been farming 12-3 from today and, at least for me, the 80 stamina secret garden is waaay better than the 80 stamina manyu daily one, i´ve got only like 2 or 3 lvl 100 manyus from 3 runs of the manyu daily, while in the 80 garden i got 3 red lvl 100 manyus in only 1 run, the only downside its the rng in here to get the 4 chest, you get better rewards either way, without mentioning the chance of getting some ampies in 12-3

Originally Posted by JessMini

But, there aren't 4 coin flips, there are 6 coin flips in the level.

This is where the problem is. There are only 4 coin flips. 2 to get to the bottom fork, and then 1 at each fork.
The first squad to get to a fork does not count, since either direction is ok.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is where the problem is. There are only 4 coin flips. 2 to get to the bottom fork, and then 1 at each fork.
The first squad to get to a fork does not count, since either direction is ok.

You are forgetting the 2 up top as well mate. Without getting those two as well you will not clear the map.

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Originally Posted by Ikki

i´ve been farming 12-3 from today and, at least for me, the 80 stamina secret garden is waaay better than the 80 stamina manyu daily one, i´ve got only like 2 or 3 lvl 100 manyus from 3 runs of the manyu daily, while in the 80 garden i got 3 red lvl 100 manyus in only 1 run, the only downside its the rng in here to get the 4 chest, you get better rewards either way, without mentioning the chance of getting some ampies in 12-3

Yes but to get that secret garden you need to spend more stam and hope for the best. So what i'm interested in is which is better based on stam used?

Say you have 240 stam that is 3 runs of the daily vs 2 'possible' secret gardens... now you get to do that about 2 times during the space of 1 day so it's 6 runs of the daily vs 2-4 secret gardens (most likely chance to only get 2 when done in 2 x 240 stam hits).

That was my reasons for doing the dailies. Slightly less chance for lvl 100s per run but with 6 runs that is 18-24 chests vs 6-8 (12-16 if you get really lucky and spawn 4 gardens but that is like 1 in a million) for the same stam.

if you put if that way then the manyu daily is better (it sucks when you expect to get the secret garden and it doesnt pops up, god that makes me mad) if you really need those 2 types of manyu (since its locked for purple/yellow and red/blue) then i guess its better, stamina wise its better 80 vs posible 115

I'm highly stubborn. I keep replaying missions until I get 3 stars. That is unless I need to farm Manyu or something.

When you don't get an SG after 12-3, you'll get either a boss (equipment seeds) or nothing. Either way, it only cost 35 stamina then.
To add to that, the Sacred Beast ampys drop from the campaign maps, not from Secret Garden. So far, I seem to get a Sacred Beast about once every 3-4 runs.
So I figure, they're both decent maps to do.

The difference is gold and experience. Doing the Manyu daily gets you low gold/exp, whereas 12-3 is reliable gold and experience.

I just dont see gold manyus enought from th daily to make not farming 12-3 better and hoping for amps

I did a bit of 12-5 farming to prove my bad-assary given how many times that mission annoyed me