Originally Posted by PSthebest

I wonder if it's going to be 600 atk following the % increase of other equips or maybe higher.

Also, wasn't Fritillaria a subpar girl among the slice rainbows?

Fritata is subpar in total TP, one of the lowest 6* in fact.

But, TP is only really relevant to whaleship and Frito-lay boasts a pretty decent ATK stat. She has her fans, but personally I think she needs a bit too much setup in order to make her shine; she needs to be in a full trigger squad with a specific 5* unit (Cymbidium) to take advantage of her ATK boost when party members use their specials. She's not terrible if you can hook it together.

There is one slight problem though: her ATK boost ability really only matters if combat lasts more than one round; if all team members fire their specials on round one, her ATK boost is only enough to bring her to the second highest ATK among 6* slice units (Dianthus is the highest). For the degree of setup required to make this happen, I would ask: why not use Dianthus? That said, if combat lasts more than one round, then subsequent specials will easily push Frito-bandito into the top ATK slot. Sadly, this boost only lasts for the fight, not the map.

Now, when Fritter gets her bloom abilities? That's a whole other story altogether; her boost jumps from 2% per special to a staggering 16% and caps at almost 100% which I imagine will look glorious for longer fights...provided she can stay alive since she sports the third lowest HP of all 6* units. Get a tanky trigger girl who can use Taunt on the team and Fritte-pommes should be just fine to unleash hell.

TL;DR: Don't rely on TP to judge how useful a girl can be.

Originally Posted by JellyWoW

Janurary 2nd is what they are saying

Is this in reference to when next blooms are announced? If so, maybe wait to use 6* gacha tickets if you want to be sure to get a bloomable 6*?

Originally Posted by Taon

Fritata is subpar in total TP, one of the lowest 6* in fact.

But, TP is only really relevant to whaleship and Frito-lay boasts a pretty decent ATK stat. She has her , but personally I think she needs a bit too much setup in order to make her shine; she needs to be in a full trigger squad with a specific 5* unit (Cymbidium) to take advantage of her ATK boost when party members use their specials. She's not terrible if you can hook it together.

There is one slight problem though: her ATK boost ability really only matters if combat lasts more than one round; if all team members fire their specials on round one, her ATK boost is only enough to bring her to the second highest ATK among 6* slice units (Dianthus is the highest). For the degree of setup required to make this happen, I would ask: why not use Dianthus? That said, if combat lasts more than one round, then subsequent specials will easily push Frito-bandito into the top ATK slot. Sadly, this boost only lasts for the fight, not the map.

Now, when Fritter gets her bloom abilities? That's a whole other story altogether; her boost jumps from 2% per special to a staggering 16% and caps at almost 100% which I imagine will look glorious for longer fights...provided she can stay alive since she sports the third lowest HP of all 6* units. Get a tanky trigger girl who can use Taunt on the team and Fritte-pommes should be just fine to unleash hell.

TL;DR: Don't rely on TP to judge how useful a girl can be.

Oh yeah, I like to check the stats and ability to analyze wich girls are best. I remember a long time ago I was deciding wich slice girls I would take and you were right, I took Dianthus (plus her amazing design gives her more waifu points), my second choice was Black Baccara since she has a 35% atk bonus right from the start without needing setup.
I didn't know about that huge boost she gets from bloomed form. That's amazing!
Maybe Gerbera gets a boost too and stop being the most useless gold?

Originally Posted by PSthebest

Maybe Gerbera gets a boost too and stop being the most useless gold?

Bloomed Gerbera will be slightly better than un-bloomed Fritillaria.
The style of her bloomed art is rather different from the style of her unevolved and evolved art, but gladly we can pick our preference on Nutaku, so the fans of her current art could simply stick to her unevolved style if they prefer that.

There appears to be alot of Fritillaria bashing/number crunching. As she is my #1 waifu (especially after they added expressions when you click on them, she's just so cute when you poke her), I feel the need to point out that for all of the number crunching I've seen going on about her, nobody has pointed out that her special deals more damage than Dianthus (who admittedly is my #2 waifu). At 2.4, even if her attack power is lower, if you put her in a squad with a high percentage damage boost (I'm at 93%), get her gear up to max, and lay on the ampies, she actually deals more actual damage than Dianthus does with her 2.2.

And funny story, that's without her percentage increase ability which ends up just being icing on the cake.

Let me throw in my 2 cents about her.

Fritili...Fritila...Fri.... ah fuck it, Choco Lily - after bloomed is a very powerful character, even more so if its against multiple enemies. I have her as the finisher (as in: the last girl in line to act) in my DMM team build around crits and skill activation.
Her special - especially if powered up by other girls before she gets to go (blooming ability) - thus reason why she is the finisher, if all girls activate on that turn, can almost double the damage output. Now once the actual Crit mechanic is introduced, you do the numbers.... or dont - simply take my word for it - she is very powerful - and unlike Dendro who looses her umpf after the first turn (granted seldom anything survives that first turn), Frit. just keeps on going, stacking that power up every single turn more and more till it hits the cap.

Yes she is not Kerria level of broken (Kerria is plain and stupid retarded, if this game had PVP this would be an autoinclude character for every whale....then again I dont think if there would be PVP she would be this OP for longer than a month before she would get nerfed drastically.) but as far as huge amounts of damage goes, she is certainly in the uppper echeleons once Bloomed.

I would like to say that Kerria quickly drops out once you have to fight 3 enemies, but my Kerria -70% team would argue otherwise. The mistake a lot of people make when it comes to Kerria is that she is not a character you can just pick up and run with. If you do not have the units that make her... well Kerria-level broken... than dendro, Frita, and the like are much better choices...

Is there a list or an existing thread that ranks the top 6-star characters in order of ability or power level? Probably won't drastically change my 6-star ticket selections (there are certain characters like Dendrobium I won't take regardless of their merits just based on design preferences) but I'd want to at least avoid selecting a few of the least powerful / useful 6-stars.

Originally Posted by FriendlyFacez

Is there a list or an existing thread that ranks the top 6-star characters in order of ability or power level? Probably won't drastically change my 6-star ticket selections (there are certain characters like Dendrobium I won't take regardless of their merits just based on design preferences) but I'd want to at least avoid selecting a few of the least powerful / useful 6-stars.

It's really hard to say, since some girls have a bloomed form, but most don't, several of which don't even have a Bloomed form on DMM yet. And that matters quite a lot.

For example, Cactace is relatively weak for a rainbow. Yet, on DMM she got a bloomed form (and no idea when we'll get that here, since Nutaku doesn't follow the same release order for bloomed girls), and she turned from one of the weakest rainbows into one of the most overpowered ones.
On the other hand, Sakura got a nice bloomed form as well, but that wasn't half as big an improvement as the one Cactace received. The two are much more closely matched in their bloomed forms.

So in the end, the best advice is, and will always be: pick your waifu, or if you already have your waifu, pick a concubine to go with her. Ampy her up like there's no tomorrow, get her a nice skillbloom every month, and she'll be good. And next time you get a ticket, go through this list and find her a nice team member with matching (often the same!) passives.

Trigger-rate girls match well with other trigger-rate girls, debuff girls go well with other debuff girls and somewhat with +DEF girls, countergirls go very well with oother countergirls, evade-girls with evade-girls, etcetera.

Evade rainbows go best with non-evade, non-counter girls now that taunt exists.