Originally Posted by Eversor86

Yeah, paid FGs are used first, furthermore FGs with shortest "timers" are used first. Freebie FGs don't have timers so they are used last.

Yeah, but my question is, does DMM also have expiration dates on paid FGs? Because if that's the case, I don't see Nutaku removing them anytime soon either.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Yeah, but my question is, does DMM also have expiration dates on paid FGs? Because if that's the case, I don't see Nutaku removing them anytime soon either.

Cant answer that as I don't play any games on DMM, but heck something tells me that even if DMM didn't had timers on premium currency, Nutaku wouldn't remove theirs anyway.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Cant answer that as I don't play any games on DMM, but heck something tells me that even if DMM didn't had timers on premium currency, Nutaku wouldn't remove theirs anyway.

That logic doesn't follow, because we know DMM does have, at the very least, expiration on their points system, the same way Nutaku has on their gold system. And Nutaku is officially recognized as English DMM.

We also know that Nutaku Aigis is run by the same devs as DMM Aigis, unlike Nutaku/DMM FKG.

In other words, you can't fault Nutaku for having/not removing something that DMM also does.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

In other words, you can't fault Nutaku for having/not removing something that DMM also does.

I said I don't play on DMM - you can read that as I know nothing about DMM and their games dev teams.

I also don't play Aigis, so I know nothing about that game.

I don't buy nor plan to buy ever any Nutaku gold, thus know nothing about it having any expiration timers.

So in conclusion your "we" kinda doesn't follow .

Not sure how others, but when I mention Nutaku in a certain game topic I am talking about Nutaku and/or dev team behind that game. Your statement that Nutaku/DMM FKG dev teams aren't the same just proves my point, that stuff on DMM side doesn't mean same thing will happen on Nutaku side.

Technically I can fault Nutaku for having/not removing stuff, cause as "publishers" they should have something to say and demand certain stuff from dev teams. Them probably not doing so and having some kind of excuses as to why they don't isn't something that matters here.

Anyway, lets not go further into this off topic.

EDIT:

Do anyone have print screens of box/gacha for resets 4, 5 and 7? (6th is few pages back, I am at 3rd myself)

To clarify, you can't fault Nutaku for something that DMM also does, without also faulting DMM for it.

So it's hypocritical to say "Nutaku is greedy about expiring premium currency, just go to DMM" when they have the same policies regarding that.

If you were to bring up the lack of freebies on Nutaku, then you'd have a reasonable argument. But not this.

I'd just like to take this time to reiterate that I welcome all criticism of Nutaku... when they actually deserve it. If you start piling on these selective nitpicks, then the sentiment gets lost.

So we talked about event being stamina hungry and possibly burning FGs on stamina refills. Somehow topic about paid FGs having expiration timers came up. Someone was surprised that it even existed, someone suggested it should be removed. You asked if the same thing is on DMM, suggesting that if it is, then Nutaku wont change it fast. I answered that I don't know how it is on DMM and added a remark that if DMM removed it Nutaku would probably keep it - suggesting that Nutaku are greedy folks. Somewhere along the way someone mentioned having backup DMM account for time when Nutaku goes full evil pure-greed maniacs.

And we are now here - discussing hypocrisy of statements nobody said o.O

Like how the heck we came to this?

Probably because the conversation started because of a reliance on paid FGs vs. the compensation FGs we were given to clear this event, and posts like these.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Also its Nutaku. They probably give zero fucks about F2P players. As long as 'whales' wont whine that events are 'imposibru' to do even with dropping bunch of FGs, then nothing will be changed.

Hell yeah, finally touch 5K!

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Probably because the conversation started because of a reliance on paid FGs vs. the compensation FGs we were given to clear this event, and posts like these.

There is no reliance on paid FGs. Drip said that event like this compared to some of previous ones makes it look like Nutaku wants to move to a model that would force reliance on FGs to the point of motivating buying them. Or at least that is what I got from what he wrote. Thou I won't lie - it did start that whole paid FGs have expiration timer thingy.

Nobody compared paid FGs to compensation ones. I just wondered if they used apology FGs in place of previously just broken and to easy gacha event, and before that calculated how much FGs you would need to fully clear each reset.

Sure that quoted single line from middle of my post is kinda harshly negative, but I don't think that it has enough driving force to make someone do a hypocrisy dispute 2 pages later.

Let's just end this off topic for good now and conclude that:

- You need around 19-20 FGs with 320 stamina cap and around 660 stamina a day to fully clear all resets of this event.

- Price per spin, on each reset, at least for now seems to be identical to DMM - so Nutaku isn't really at fault here.

- The 5 "apology" FGs are actually a really decent help in clearing this event, thou not fully, yet still a plus for Nutaku .

- We shouldn't blame Nutaku for things that DMM also did/does (nobody did that in this topic yet I think).

Originally Posted by HungryHunter

Hell yeah, finally touch 5K!

Out of curiosity, what are your other squads power levels? Your main team is like 30k more power than my team, and somehow you are struggling so much with Ultimate map, when I got 4.8k on first try, with default set-up and one of my squads actually dying on last boss (so losing me 700 trophies). I simply cant believe someone has worse luck in RNG nodes on those maps than I do

Here is my team



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