Originally Posted by Wutan

Nah i think the rates on DMM were the same in this Event. At least i hope so.

However if they ever make the "extra rewards" only accessible for those people spending FGs for Stamina Refills that would be considered a dickish move.

We are already suffer from Gem Starvation. If they want to sell FGs with this move i am 100% sure that a lot of F2P will ship over to DMM.

Or just stop playing. Starting anew is a meh-y idea at least for me. And lets be honest - I play this game to get mah wifus and their h-scenes. Battles I just auto/afk to not see fails on RNG and thus not to not get angry .

Also its Nutaku. They probably give zero fucks about F2P players. As long as 'whales' wont whine that events are 'imposibru' to do even with dropping bunch of FGs, then nothing will be changed. Thou I wonder - last gacha event was so broken that you could finish it in phase one doing full clears on all resets supposedly as an apology for late start or something, but when this event started we got like 5 FGs as an apology for this event being late IIRC. So seems they learned their lesson and instead of making things easier, they just gave few FG to refill stamina to "get back" lost time.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Or just stop playing. Starting anew is a meh-y idea at least for me. And lets be honest - I play this game to get mah wifus and their h-scenes. Battles I just auto/afk to not see fails on RNG and thus not to not get angry .

Also its Nutaku. They probably give zero fucks about F2P players. As long as 'whales' wont whine that events are 'imposibru' to do even with dropping bunch of FGs, then nothing will be changed. Thou I wonder - last gacha event was so broken that you could finish it in phase one doing full clears on all resets supposedly as an apology for late start or something, but when this event started we got like 5 FGs as an apology for this event being late IIRC. So seems they learned their lesson and instead of making things easier, they just gave few FG to refill stamina to "get back" lost time.

Yeah it's quite possible that they expect us to use the compensation to clear the Event reliably. Well let's see if the rewards from Phase 2 are worth spending FGs for Refills

I have made a DMM Account for a backup purpose. If they ever go to deep in the greed department i will simply abandon Nutaku and play DMM exclusively.

I know it sucks to go through the whole Leveling Progress again but it's nice to have an alternative.

Originally Posted by Wutan

Yeah it's quite possible that they expect us to use the compensation to clear the Event reliably. Well let's see if the rewards from Phase 2 are worth spending FGs for Refills

Well with 480 stamina per day of passive regeneration, 180 stamina from 12 gathers with 15 average per gather, you have total 660 stamina per day to spend on maps. With around 320+ stamina cap so level 90+ 2 FG would equal then a "bonus" day of farming. So for someone like me 5 FGs equal 2.5 days worth of "lost time". Or 1600 stamina that equals between 96k to 160k trophies (depending on ratio 60 trophies/stamina that I get now, or 100 trophies/stamina you should be able to get in phase two). With resets that phase two should add where full clears cost from 157.5k to 210k - its a nice help if you are lucky with spins, not so much if you need to nearly fully clear each reset.

EDIT:

Hmm. Event is up for around 13 days. Half of that is phase one with its 60 trophies stamina, and 660 stamina per day - around 40k trophies per day. Lets say phase one is 7 days long - 280k trophies. Phase two will then be 6 days long and should let us reach 66k trophies per day (660 stamina 100 trophies/stamina) - so close to 400k trophies. Totaling over whole event 680k trophies. Could probably add like 10% to factor in level ups - 750k. To fully clear we need 1.365M so we are 615k short. With 320 stamina cap and spending FG to farm more trophies on phase 2 we have 32k trophies per FG - a bit over 19 FG to get missing trophies. Question is if its worth using FGs to fully clear.

With 100 trophies per stamina in phase two, and per spin costs starting at 3150 - thats 31.5+ stamina per spin. If boxes will be half full of crap (seeds, coins, 3* girls), then with such high stamina per spin cost full clearing will simply be not worth it. Of course assuming you get red-reset thingy in few first spins, its use FGs case if you get that on literally last spin each reset.

All of this talk and I haven't even started this event yet due to lag issues being quite severe. Wth Nutaku. Hurry up with the server change!

Originally Posted by nazrin992

All of this talk and I haven't even started this event yet due to lag issues being quite severe. Wth Nutaku. Hurry up with the server change!

Personally I don't have any lags. Didn't bother to check where Nutaku servers are, but they seems to be OK in east EU. Thou if you didn't even start this event yet, then you will need seriously good luck to do it (at least if you will want to do all resets and get some stuff other than just a girl and her blooms).

EDIT: Will add that I play on clear chrome - without any addons - installed just for Nutaku games.

Originally Posted by nazrin992

All of this talk and I haven't even started this event yet due to lag issues being quite severe. Wth Nutaku. Hurry up with the server change!

It's quite bad to me as well, but on a "failed to load" or whatever that error message says, I pick the exact same helper squad when trying again. After 2-3 tries, the map generally loads properly.

Originally Posted by Drip

It's quite bad to me as well, but on a "failed to load" or whatever that error message says, I pick the exact same helper squad when trying again. After 2-3 tries, the map generally loads properly.

No such luck for me as your method doesn't work. It gives me Loading Failed immediately after I chose the same helpers.

And I even play on Opera which is mostly for Nutaku games.

Hell yeah, finally touch 5K!

Probably because the conversation started because of a reliance on paid FGs vs. the compensation FGs we were given to clear this event, and posts like these.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Also its Nutaku. They probably give zero fucks about F2P players. As long as 'whales' wont whine that events are 'imposibru' to do even with dropping bunch of FGs, then nothing will be changed.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Probably because the conversation started because of a reliance on paid FGs vs. the compensation FGs we were given to clear this event, and posts like these.

There is no reliance on paid FGs. Drip said that event like this compared to some of previous ones makes it look like Nutaku wants to move to a model that would force reliance on FGs to the point of motivating buying them. Or at least that is what I got from what he wrote. Thou I won't lie - it did start that whole paid FGs have expiration timer thingy.

Nobody compared paid FGs to compensation ones. I just wondered if they used apology FGs in place of previously just broken and to easy gacha event, and before that calculated how much FGs you would need to fully clear each reset.

Sure that quoted single line from middle of my post is kinda harshly negative, but I don't think that it has enough driving force to make someone do a hypocrisy dispute 2 pages later.

Let's just end this off topic for good now and conclude that:

- You need around 19-20 FGs with 320 stamina cap and around 660 stamina a day to fully clear all resets of this event.

- Price per spin, on each reset, at least for now seems to be identical to DMM - so Nutaku isn't really at fault here.

- The 5 "apology" FGs are actually a really decent help in clearing this event, thou not fully, yet still a plus for Nutaku .

- We shouldn't blame Nutaku for things that DMM also did/does (nobody did that in this topic yet I think).

Originally Posted by HungryHunter

Hell yeah, finally touch 5K!

Out of curiosity, what are your other squads power levels? Your main team is like 30k more power than my team, and somehow you are struggling so much with Ultimate map, when I got 4.8k on first try, with default set-up and one of my squads actually dying on last boss (so losing me 700 trophies). I simply cant believe someone has worse luck in RNG nodes on those maps than I do