Originally Posted by smr

one squad on middle camp, the rest on bottom camp at E-7 currently has the best stamina per trophy ratio.

I've been kinda doing the same thing. Do u run the SG though? Cause it seems they kinda drop the same amount as E-7 so u'd miss on the money and the 2 life crystals. But I'm not entirely sure that E-7 and the the corresponding SG drop about the same amount.

Originally Posted by Ashen

I've been kinda doing the same thing. Do u run the SG though? Cause it seems they kinda drop the same amount as E-7 so u'd miss on the money and the 2 life crystals. But I'm not entirely sure that E-7 and the the corresponding SG drop about the same amount.

I also run 1 middle (2nd from top) and 4 bottom. For now my average is around 4450 which is close to 90 trophies/stamina.
Bonus stage on average over 3 runs gave me around 4800 which is close to 96 trophies/stamina.

A bit less trophies stamina on base map is offset by over 3 times the experience (so more level ups), life crystals, and actual drops (can be ampies or even more life crystals), so I run only the base map (additional positive for me is I can run it when ever I have 50 stamina, no need for 50 additional buffer for eventual bonus stage).

My squads are to weak to run Ultimate without solar blasts/luck, and on 3 runs I did to 3 medal/test it, i got on average only 5800 which is below 73 trophies/stamina. Bonus stage spawned thou on single spawn gave me 8800 so close to 110 trophies/stamina, and people say they got close to 10k, while theoretical minimum is somewhere around 8200-8300 (when all squads go straight towards finish line and you proc each item 5 times only).

With the numbers that I got thou, a combo of base map and bonus map actually gives slightly more for Advanced (91.7 vs 91.2). But that is if you spawn bonus each run. I seem to spawn it, at least for now, on a 1 per 3 basis. With such spawn rate and thus 3 base map and 1 bonus map runs average values go down, for Advanced barely and for Ultimate quite a lot making Advanced actually a better map overall (89.8 vs 81.94). Of course if someone gets a lot better yields from Ultimate/Bonus than I got on my 3 base runs and 1 bonus spawn, numbers could be different .

I have been doing ?-8 putting all my squads on the bottom node i get around 5k - 6k avg and with the bonus stage i get 8.9k - 9.4k i might try the advanced stage to see how well that one works out.

According to my stats the Lv.50 one is the best, but only very slightly ahead of the Lv.80 one. This is assuming the probability for a bonus stage is the same for both (I got 4/5 on the 50 currently and 5/5 on the 80).

Assuming 90% probability for a bonus stage I average 168 trophies per stamina on the 50 stage, 166 on the 80 stage.

For the curious, here are my calculations:
Lv.15: Average 988 (only one run), 1/1 bonus rate (Lv.25)
Lv.30: Average 1392 (only one run), 1/1 bonus rate (Lv.25)
Lv.50: Average 4170 (4184, 4800, 4368, 3112, 4384), 4/5 bonus rate (Lv.50)
Lv.80: Average 4814.4 (4316, 4580, 4828, 5020, 5328), 5/5 bonus rate (Lv.80)

Lv.25 bonus: Average 1440 (1324, 1556)
Lv.50 bonus: Average 4703 (4820, 4740, 4548, forgot to note one)
Lv.80 bonus: Average 9386 (8760, 9704, 9136, 9944, forgot to note one)

That said, I first used suboptimal setups for both the 50 and 80 runs. However, the freak 3112 yield from the 50 was on the optimal setup. Not sure what that was about...

Here are the trophy/stamina calculations based on bonus stage chance:

	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	95%
Lv.50	130	140	149	159	168	173
Lv.80	119	131	142	154	166	172

I think this game just hate me...

Originally Posted by z16

Assuming 90% probability for a bonus stage I average 168 trophies per stamina on the 50 stage, 166 on the 80 stage.

Not to be rude or anything, but maybe check your calculations few times before you post such stuff, instead of doing fancy post formatting with tables .

I assume you forgot to add bonus stage stamina costs into your math, that is why you get magically nearly double the trophies/stamina other people do.

You are also very lucky with your bonus stages. I got 1/3 on Ultimate, and 4/10 on Advanced. But because in the long run doing 50 bonus stage is not that useful for me, I didn't do most of them.

Now to add few stuff and correct others:

Beginner: Average 988 (65.8(6) trophies/stamina)
Intermediate: Average 1392 (46.4 trophies/stamina)
Advanced: Average 4170 (83.4 trophies/stamina)
Ultimate: Average 4814.4 (60.18 trophies/stamina)

25 bonus: Average 1440 (57.6 trophies/stamina)
50 bonus: Average 4703 (94.06 trophies/stamina)
80 bonus: Average 9386 (117.325 trophies/stamina)

Here are the trophy/stamina based on bonus stage spawn chance:

	30%	40%	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	100%
Advanced	85.86	86.45	86.95	87.4	87.8	88.14	88.45	88.73
Ultimate	73.37	76.51	79.23	81.6	83.7	85.58	87.25	88.75

So in conclusion, with just your values, running pure Advanced is as good as running Ultimate and its bonus stage with 70% spawn rate.

I myself get a slightly bigger average on Advanced which is close to 4300 and thus 86 trophies/stamina, with that value I am somewhere between 80 and 90% spawn rate for Ultimate to make it viable alternative.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

I assume you forgot to add bonus stage stamina costs into your math, that is why you get magically nearly double the trophies/stamina other people do.

No, but I incorrectly divided by the stamina before calculating the chance, so I essentially added values doubly. Your numbers are correct.

I'm generally very lucky with bonus stages compared to other forum readers, but I had very good bonus chance experience with every event so far. On the last one I also had close to 90%. I'm currently 14/17 on bonus stages for the second phase of the event, so an 82% chance.

Updated numbers:
Regular:
Lv.50: Average 4356 (4184, 4800, 4368, 3112, 4384, 5704, 4704, 4000, 3952)
Lv.80: Average 4987 (4316, 4580, 4828, 5020, 5328, 5852)


Bonus:
Lv.50: Average 4716 (4820, 4740, 4548, 4684, 4788)
Lv.80: Average 9355 (8760, 9704, 9136, 9944, 9232)

	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	95%
Lv.50	89.5	89.8	90.1	90.3	90.5	90.6
Lv.80	80.5	82.8	84.8	86.6	88.2	88.9

Fuuuu...

...and after that 4 more Lists... in ~4.5 days = clearly impossible to complete them without Level-up and/or FG...