Well assuming you don't run Ultimate maps like I do, cause I rather run Advanced for better exp/stamina. You will get 1 cherry per 10 stamina used. Doing Advanced you will also get around 225 dolls per run. You need 5 runs, to get even 20 cherries, and with that get 1125 dolls. 20 cherries are 2 spawns of 0-stamina bonus stage with lets say 2 runs each. Thats 4x345 = 1380 dolls.

Thus per 200 stamina (5 advanced runs) you gain an average total of 2505 dolls. To fully clear both event phases you need 84K dolls. With a bit of rounding up we end up with a total of 6720 stamina needed to fully clear all resets of gacha. With "safe" 12 days to spare on event thats 560 stamina a day. There is 480 stamina passively regenerated each day and at minimum 9 gathers done for sake of dailies with average of 15 stamina per gather which is 135 more stamina a day - total 615 a day.

In conclusion even on safe calculations we actually have over 40 stamina a day to spare on other than event stuff and will still be able to fully clear each reset. Which means that if you skip on some stuff and get lucky on spinning out reset-enabling things fast, you can easily farm some Manyus/Dragons or reissue.

Now the question is, is it worth doing reissues to get doubles of girls you already have, or maybe just get blooms as a character specific Manyus, or ignore them completely to use time/stamina/resources on other girls I already have (20 un-evolved gold girls).

Originally Posted by Myrdin

*Also, and this is important* DONT stress yourself to much of running the special map just twice per spawn. Its plenty enough, trust me.

It's not. It's enough. It's not plenty. Yes, clearing is easy - if you do fuck all else during that time. But I have many manyus, dragons and coins to farm, in addition to the new reissued maps to clear. Tl;dr I got shit to do and the event should supplement the game, not get in the way. What's the point of getting new girls each event if you can't get the necessary resources to level them?

And my main problem with the event is not that I can't clear it, in the first place. That's a waste of stamina most of the time and only worth it situationally in the later stages of the gacha. My problem is that people with a better connection have it easier, i.e. the event is not fair. Some people can get triple runs regularly, meanwhile I'm lucky if I can get two. Assuming they can get triple runs half the time (some people reported they can do it always, barring some mistake), that already gives them 690 extra dolls per 80 stamina. So far my average is 1.8 runs per stage, or 497 extra dolls per 80 stamina. That's a difference of ~1.350 dolls daily, assuming seven 80 stamina runs. Or 16.2k dolls in 12 days, i.e. 1.6 full gacha clears they got for free just because of a better connection. For the record, if someone really clears it thrice on every run that would give them almost three full gachas extra over people who only clear it twice. Or put another way, they would have 2.2k extra stamina that they could use on other things. And that's why I'm annoyed. With the game's max stamina of 395 that would be worth 5.7 extra flower gems to refill stamina. Whichever way you look at it, it's bullshit.

Fortunately there are occasionally sane events in between garbage like this which give me room to breathe, so none of that is as important, it just gives me more reason to dislike Nutaku/DMM/whoever is responsible.

People complaining because things aren't "fair" enough for them. People complaining because the event's too "hard" for them.
People complaining because they have shitty internet connections. People complaining because they want to invest less effort into something like clearing a gacha but want all the rewards. People complaining because an event designed to be a fun change of pace from regular game flow doesn't suit their specific wants.

Seeing a lot of complaints that are all just spoiled nonsense. Honestly if people don't like the event they should just not run it.
Don't like gacha events? Don't find it fair that you can't do the bonus level more than once, even though the event is designed to be fully cleared only being able to do the bonus map once anyway? Just do the re-issue in 6 months when there is no fun mechanics involved, and if that's too hard because of a time limit, do it when the Perma-Reissue comes out. Honestly wondering why we can't have a nice forum without this spoiled, "I'm OWED everything" attitude.

Should mention that DMM uses the usual 5-10 minute timer/single clear bonus stage setup for the 0 stamina stages. Nutaku presumably made them repeatable for the first gacha event because of an update snafu shortening the event. That doesn't explain keeping them repeatable and shortening the timer for later events, tho.

Originally Posted by Bloodsport Bloom

Bla bla people cry too much bla

Why do you complain about people complaining? If you don't like that just don't read our posts. Instead you whine about it like the little princess you are. Why can't we have a nice forum where people don't complain about complainers all the time?

Originally Posted by z16

Why do you complain about people complaining? If you don't like that just don't read our posts. Instead you whine about it like the little princess you are. Why can't we have a nice forum where people don't complain about complainers all the time?

Why do people complain about people who are complaining about complainers. Why can't we have a nice forum where people don't complain about people who complain about complainers all the time :X

Okay I just want to throw some opinions on the matters... Guess I better stop.

But seriously, this event is pretty okay IMO. It's much better than place a bet on swan boat in the last event on DMM. THAT made me feels like 'Isn't this just horse race gambling?' And not too long it should have more diversion in event gameplay. Because seriously... re-issued is just boring for me. Especially when random node and RNG played a big factor on it.

PS: no problem in getting 2 runs per call, or 1 run even. May need to skip some unimportant rewards though.

PS2: Again, just for curious sake. What kind of event do you like the most. Gacha roll like this? Or Raid Boss? Or Gathering items? Mine is Treasure Rally in the last 2 event on DMM.

Originally Posted by game2534

Okay I just want to throw some opinions on the matters... Guess I better stop.

But seriously, this event is pretty okay IMO. It's much better than place a bet on swan boat in the last event on DMM. THAT made me feels like 'Isn't this just horse race gambling?' And not too long it should have more diversion in event gameplay. Because seriously... re-issued is just boring for me. Especially when random node and RNG played a big factor on it.

PS: no problem in getting 2 runs per call, or 1 run even. May need to skip some unimportant rewards though.

PS2: Again, just for curious sake. What kind of event do you like the most. Gacha roll like this? Or Raid Boss? Or Gathering items? Mine is Treasure Rally in the last 2 event on DMM.

In all honesty I do like the current DMM Treasure chest Gacha. They are very easy to clear due to the fair pricing of the gacha, and the amount you can farm up. I enjoyed the previous pirate chest one as well.... I dunno those cutesy chest icons brimming with goodies hidden inside of them channel my inner pirate or something.... Yarr
The race event was OK ish, but a bit tedious, I wish there was a button that would allow the girl to go straight to the finish line by doing as many rolls of the dice as necessary and subtracting the amount of currency needed for it. It was just a bit to tedious for clicking a hundred times on the race track.

Also z16 - I get your point, but that is a fact and reality of FKG events of this type - they require massive grindfest pinatas. You can try and do other stuff, or you can skip the early stages of rewards if you get what you wanted but inevitable it always comes down to grinding like crazy. You just have to choose your priorities - that goes pretty much for everything. Event maps tend to give good coin, plus Life Crystals, so they compensate for the gold run maps. Also there are bloom dragons and manyus in the Gacha so you are not loosing out on em as much as you think you are + the fact that on higher gacha steps they are GUARANTEED to be high lvl as well. Unlike doing the regular maps, where you can blow 350+ stamina on a dragon run, just to get all small and medium ones if the game feels especially "trolling" that day.
With that in mind, there is really not that much to complain about in all honesty. I am for one thankful that I can take my high lvl Dragons and Manyus for granted while also doing the main event part at the same time.

Personally, I've only experienced this and one other gacha event, so the novelty of them makes them extra fun. My first event was a gacha event that I failed to reach the later stages of because I started the game in Phase 2 and didn't know that resetting to get the end gear was more important than a few level 20 manyu. So full clearing this time around has an extra feel of satisfaction.

After Gacha events I'd have to say Raid Boss events are my favourite. I enjoy nuking but have had to curb my behaviour for the sake of not being an asshole to my fellow allies. So when these roll around and the RBs start being summoned non-stop by non-allies and I get to use my teams to their full nuking potential, it's a great time. After I joined we had a swath of these so they happen to be the type of event I've grown the most accustomed to.

Gathering events, like the reissues are I assume, are the most relaxed. I tend to want these more than other events because I'm still pretty new to the game, because I tend to finish them up early and get back to farming for the Gifts/Manyu I still need as a newbie.

As for the discussion on the actual current event, I'm looking forward to when this gets reissued. No RNG like Schwartz the Destroyer in these maps so far, but the Phase 2 may prove me wrong. Either way, since I don't farm Coin Rush on Saturdays I'll likely be farming the event map even though I've finished the gacha already. More event currency is never a bad thing.

I haven't yet and should probably actually work on her before Phase 2 lands. Totally forgot about her!
Guess I was so busy thinking Star Lily was going to be our Permanent Reissue when it wasn't I forgot we even got one.
Considering the expert map has such dismal Ampi rates (Don't think I've gotten one from it yet) I think you might have just saved me from a lot of salt, Mindrunner.
Edit: I even mentioned moving on to Moonvine in my last posts, and then immediately forgot about her. This is probably an omen that she will join Lavender the Lavatory in my "Unused Gold" pile that keeps growing. I prefer Tachibana design-wise as far as 3rd Turn Activation girls go.