Thread: plat units = to blacks

And you were continuously proven wrong about Gellius being the best tank because, once again, if you can DPS something before it becomes a problem, then a cheaper tank or a tank that can also do damage is superior than Gellius.

The argument that Nadia is better is because Nadia fulfills her roles better than Gellius can. Gellius is replaceable with any tank unless golems are involved or ranged slots are sparse. Nadia is replaceable with a duelist and 2-3 mages. Obviously you get better returns with Nadia, therefore Nadia is the superior unit when it matters.

unless u can replace nadia with a duelist with aoe assasination , or place her vs a boss with high resistance and she does jack squat damage , when a duelist with true damage would outperform her easily.
Or you need a duelist to stall a megaboss , in which case olivie or karma would work better , or you have a very early swarm where she won't even be placed. the fact is there are many situations where nadia doesn't do her job that well either.
And your argument that gelius does no damage compared to bernice ....well , how much damage do you think bernice will return to most enemies ? I mean it mostly depends on how her counter works : if she does half of the enemies attack or half of the damage taken , but even so...

And against really high damaging bosses , you're better of using a better tank , then have your tank return some damage , but need more healers. If that's the case , gellius will masively outperform bernice against higher tier enemies , and not get vastly outperformed against low tier enemies to warrant him not being fielded over bernice

I wasn't really heavily implying Bernice is the greatest replacement.

I'm getting a bit tired of this now. Can we just agree that both units are broken compared to their tier of rarity? That was the bloody topic anyways. Use what you want, provided you have it and it works.

Originally Posted by lolix

unless u can replace nadia with a duelist with aoe assasination , or place her vs a boss with high resistance and she does jack squat damage , when a duelist with true damage would outperform her easily.
Or you need a duelist to stall a megaboss , in which case olivie or karma would work better , or you have a very early swarm where she won't even be placed. the fact is there are many situations where nadia doesn't do her job that well either.
And your argument that gelius does no damage compared to bernice ....well , how much damage do you think bernice will return to most enemies ? I mean it mostly depends on how her counter works : if she does half of the enemies attack or half of the damage taken , but even so...

And against really high damaging bosses , you're better of using a better tank , then have your tank return some damage , but need more healers. If that's the case , gellius will masively outperform bernice against higher tier enemies , and not get vastly outperformed against low tier enemies to warrant him not being fielded over bernice

Those aren't situations that you would use a duelist and three mages, let alone Gellius and whatever else. Good job moving goalposts.

how the hell would you even think that i was comparing how both units would perform in the same situation , when literally untill now i was talking about how good each unit perform in their own god damn role ? Holy hell. But pls , keep at it. Argue without reading what others said before. You're definetly making me look bad

Originally Posted by lolix

how the hell would you even think that i was comparing how both units would perform in the same situation , when literally untill now i was talking about how good each unit perform in their own god damn role ? Holy hell. But pls , keep at it. Argue without reading what others said before. You're definetly making me look bad

You're the one that talked about replacing Nadia with all those things directly after I said Nadia is replaceable with a duelist and three mages. What the fuck else was I supposed to determine from your idiotic post?

i just pointed out that nadia can be outperdormed by individual units in different situations , because you were going on and one about how gellius can be outperformed by other individual units in his own role. I just shoawed that the same goes for nadia , and no , she won't always do the same job as 3 mages and 1 duelist. Depending on the situation , she won't even replace a single duelist

focus mate

No shit, but that doesn't devalue Nadia the same way other heavies/tanks devalue Gellius.

Again, Nadia is good at what she does. That doesn't include AOE assassination, or high-resistance, or whatever the fuck else in that post.