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    For the most part I feel very positive about this event.

    I really like all the free goodies that you are able to obtain through daily wins, especially that card reveal, and all the great stuff from the boxes. Finally able to stock up on some things, and even get a good amount of puddings/half puddings to help with this event. As well as saving some for the next event. Getting some new, free, cards is great as well.

    I suppose if I have any real complaints about the event it's the fact that I have some pretty low defensive wins. I'm thinking this is mostly due to the fact that I'm in rank 3 at the moment and either my deck, which isn't totally weak, is being beat by high level players or that people are just not attacking rank 3 all that often. I know for myself I've been hitting rank 2 and winning 98% of the time. However, this is a minor thing for me since I still ranked under 500 so I could get the card reveal at the end of this first half. That's all that I really wanted since I know I can't get above 100. My only other complaint is that so many new cards are in the event box. It's annoying, but hopefully we will get a chance to get them later. Probably much later.


    So, overall, for me this has been a very good event. I can't wait to throw more pies, win more Colosseum tickets, and get more goodies every day.
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    The reward players get to if they get in top 5 in this event is nothing compared to reward they get form 1000x 3 free event tickets. (1000 attacks from there alt.) 3000 tickets can easy be converted to 800 SR-girl levels = a boost of 100,000 SED by cheating.

    Who would spend 1000$-2000$ on pudding to get to the top in an SS event if you can get the same puddings by cheating for 8 days ??? If nothing is done about cheaters either a) players quit or b) start to cheat themselves. Cheaters know they have high risk of being banned from a game so why should cheaters spend money on a game.

    The top cheaters must be banned and the loop hole must be closed.

    I hear that in Japan people are so honest that you can put a 100$ bill under a rock in the morning and come back and pick it up in the evening. Well players outside Japan are not so honest if you leave if you leave a loop-hole the size of a T-rex players will find it and use it.

    Simple solution to this alt. problem just make is so that players can only attack each other once per day.
    Pie only give Pero once per day so why don’t you do the same with attacks??
    It also prevent people from offering guarantied 6 tickets wins from alt. that only use N-Girls.
    It will make this mini game a bit harder but if will be the same for all players. Reward is already good enough in this mini game.

    In last event one player got 2500 kills – He was not in top 100 and just a free player. Top5 players in last event spend 1500$ or more and got around 500 kills each. The free players got 2000 more rewards but the top players get rewards for getting in top 5. Only problem is that the players who spend 1500$ got around +200 SR-girls levels with there rewards while the free player got +1000 SR-girl levels from his rewards.

    Why spend 1500$ on getting in top 5 a SS-event if you get 5 times better rewards spending 0$?
    I think the free players that got 2500 kill must have made a new alt. every 12 hours of last event so he always could summon very weak boss that he could share with his main account and the main account could kill with one hit 24/7.

    Solution here: make boss under half you slayers could give no reward and EP. All the bosses you summon yourself have a level between half you slayer Count and your slayer Count anyway so all the bosses you summon youself will alway give rewards if is just very essy bosses from friends and your alt. account that dont give rewards. In many games monster stop give exp when you get too powerfull. Noone will fight the big bosses if the small and easy bosses give much better rewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opalia24 View Post
    The reward players get to if they get in top 5 in this event is nothing compared to reward they get form 1000x 3 free event tickets. (1000 attacks from there alt.) 3000 tickets can easy be converted to 800 SR-girl levels = a boost of 100,000 SED by cheating.

    Who would spend 1000$-2000$ on pudding to get to the top in an SS event if you can get the same puddings by cheating for 8 days ??? If nothing is done about cheaters either a) players quit or b) start to cheat themselves. Cheaters know they have high risk of being banned from a game so why should cheaters spend money on a game.

    The top cheaters must be banned and the loop hole must be closed.

    I hear that in Japan people are so honest that you can put a 100$ bill under a rock in the morning and come back and pick it up in the evening. Well players outside Japan are not so honest if you leave if you leave a loop-hole the size of a T-rex players will find it and use it.

    Simple solution to this alt. problem just make is so that players can only attack each other once per day.
    Pie only give Pero once per day so why don’t you do the same with attacks??
    It also prevent people from offering guarantied 6 tickets wins from alt. that only use N-Girls.
    It will make this mini game a bit harder but if will be the same for all players. Reward is already good enough in this mini game.

    In last event one player got 2500 kills – He was not in top 100 and just a free player. Top5 players in last event spend 1500$ or more and got around 500 kills each. The free players got 2000 more rewards but the top players get rewards for getting in top 5. Only problem is that the players who spend 1500$ got around +200 SR-girls levels with there rewards while the free player got +1000 SR-girl levels from his rewards.

    Why spend 1500$ on getting in top 5 a SS-event if you get 5 times better rewards spending 0$?
    I think the free players that got 2500 kill must have made a new alt. every 12 hours of last event so he always could summon very weak boss that he could share with his main account and the main account could kill with one hit 24/7.

    Solution here: make boss under half you slayers could give no reward and EP. All the bosses you summon yourself have a level between half you slayer Count and your slayer Count anyway so all the bosses you summon youself will alway give rewards if is just very essy bosses from friends and your alt. account that dont give rewards. In many games monster stop give exp when you get too powerfull. Noone will fight the big bosses if the small and easy bosses give much better rewards.
    As I said before: Outside of the max 340 extra attacks their alt will get from normal regeneration of focus, cheaters are actually spending money on Pudding to allow those alts to give them 100% sure def wins.

    What I find insulting from that is that these same players have good enough decks that they could just as easily have gotten 2k atk wins by using those same puddings in their main accounts. That would only have meant that the top5 that cheated would have gotten at least 85% of the total count they got by cheating.

    What's more, by doing so with their main accounts, they would have gotten 42% more PeroColo Tickets than they got from all those def wins. That's 420 tickets/84 spins per 1k atks. At the numbers they were running? Tha's pretty much a whole Platinum Box there.
    • 2k def wins = 6k tickets = 1.2k spins = 4x plat boxes = 4x Every Card, 24x R-Gacha, 136x N-Gacha, 404x SR Lvls in WC, 120x R Lvls in WC, 136x N Lvls in WC, 556k Pero, 112x Stamina Refills, 112x Focus Refills.
    • 1.8k atk wins = 9k tickets = 1.8k spins = 6x plat boxes = 6x Every Card, 36x R-Gacha, 204x N-Gacha, 606x SR Lvls in WC, 160x R Lvls in WC, 204x N Lvls in WC, 834k Pero, 168x Stamina Refills, 168x Focus Refills.


    The def wins net a total of at least 275 N-Lvls, 150 R-Lvls, 400 SR-Lvls, 550k Pero, and 110 refills for each bar, while the atk wins would yield at least 50% more. That's how much of a difference we're talking
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    How can you be sure they are spending money on alts rather than just having a bunch of alt accounts? If I were going to cheat in this way, that is what I'd do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotono View Post
    How can you be sure they are spending money on alts rather than just having a bunch of alt accounts? If I were going to cheat in this way, that is what I'd do.
    Because to get 240~360 def wins in 3hs (as top5 was doing), you would need to run at least 25 to 40 alt accounts. And, while you can search for yoursel quite well with one or two alts, having 40 of them find you in 10 minutes or less, at the same time? That's just insane
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde View Post
    Because to get 240~360 def wins in 3hs (as top5 was doing), you would need to run at least 25 to 40 alt accounts. And, while you can search for yoursel quite well with one or two alts, having 40 of them find you in 10 minutes or less, at the same time? That's just insane
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there's scripting and automation at play here as well. Which would make all of the difficulty of doing that just a matter of having enough systems at hand to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xero View Post
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there's scripting and automation at play here as well. Which would make all of the difficulty of doing that just a matter of having enough systems at hand to do it.
    Hmm, that could be done.
    With what I learned when trying to find out how the chance/gacha worked, it wouldn't be that hard to build some MitM software to automate the self-attacking really. And there might be other options for that.
    But I don't think that might be the case here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde View Post
    Because to get 240~360 def wins in 3hs (as top5 was doing), you would need to run at least 25 to 40 alt accounts. And, while you can search for yoursel quite well with one or two alts, having 40 of them find you in 10 minutes or less, at the same time? That's just insane
    Ranking list is not updated all the time so there can be jumps but I have not seem players getting more 60 def wins per hour - I an account can give 6 wins per hour so 10 alt accounts is all that is needed to become first. Even the player who became no. 1 in first half only got like 600 def wins per day. With 2-3 computer that is doable if you play 10-12 hours per day and have 10-20 alts.
    If you have 2-3 computers it is even easyer to run many alt. We got 11000+ account in this event so I am cetain there are a few crasy people who would do just that.

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    You don't need a bunch of computers, just different browsers installed. Nutaku games are browser based, after all.

  10. #10
    If you donate all refills 1 at a time you get 2.5x SR (SR-Wild3 chance 80%) level on average per refill donated. If you donate all - it takes some to you would ena at around 800- 1000 SR levels.

    The top8 players all got 1000+ defensive wins. All other players get under 500 defensive wins. It looks like at least half the top 8 players is free players. If I became a paying player I would spend my Money on my main accoun not on an alt to indirektly wins. Half of the top 8 players was not in top 100 in last event. Top 100 player in last event was almost only big spenders. So most of the players are not big spenders.

    It is easy to find a players offline who they can beat non with no risk.

    1$ spend on main accound = One pudding = 3 attacks = 3* 5 = 15 tickes. Offensive wins only give 5 tickes each.
    1$ spend on an alt. give = One pudding = 3 attacks = 3* 3 = 9 tickes. Defensive wins only give 3 tickes each.

    If they use an alt to boost main account they also risk getting banned. If they spend real Money on main account they will not be banned.

    So people who want spend real Money act in a very strange way it the use an alt to boost there score.

    I am cetain some players have 10+ alt accounts from last event. I think that they just attack main account 3 time from each account just jump to the next. The top players who gain defensive wins the fastest get 30 wins per half hour - If thay have 10 extra accounts thay would get that.
    Last edited by Opalia24; 07-24-2015 at 03:26 PM.

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