The reward players get to if they get in top 5 in this event is nothing compared to reward they get form 1000x 3 free event tickets. (1000 attacks from there alt.) 3000 tickets can easy be converted to 800 SR-girl levels = a boost of 100,000 SED by cheating.

Who would spend 1000$-2000$ on pudding to get to the top in an SS event if you can get the same puddings by cheating for 8 days ??? If nothing is done about cheaters either a) players quit or b) start to cheat themselves. Cheaters know they have high risk of being banned from a game so why should cheaters spend money on a game.

The top cheaters must be banned and the loop hole must be closed.

I hear that in Japan people are so honest that you can put a 100$ bill under a rock in the morning and come back and pick it up in the evening. Well players outside Japan are not so honest if you leave if you leave a loop-hole the size of a T-rex players will find it and use it.

Simple solution to this alt. problem just make is so that players can only attack each other once per day.
Pie only give Pero once per day so why don’t you do the same with attacks??
It also prevent people from offering guarantied 6 tickets wins from alt. that only use N-Girls.
It will make this mini game a bit harder but if will be the same for all players. Reward is already good enough in this mini game.

In last event one player got 2500 kills – He was not in top 100 and just a free player. Top5 players in last event spend 1500$ or more and got around 500 kills each. The free players got 2000 more rewards but the top players get rewards for getting in top 5. Only problem is that the players who spend 1500$ got around +200 SR-girls levels with there rewards while the free player got +1000 SR-girl levels from his rewards.

Why spend 1500$ on getting in top 5 a SS-event if you get 5 times better rewards spending 0$?
I think the free players that got 2500 kill must have made a new alt. every 12 hours of last event so he always could summon very weak boss that he could share with his main account and the main account could kill with one hit 24/7.

Solution here: make boss under half you slayers could give no reward and EP. All the bosses you summon yourself have a level between half you slayer Count and your slayer Count anyway so all the bosses you summon youself will alway give rewards if is just very essy bosses from friends and your alt. account that dont give rewards. In many games monster stop give exp when you get too powerfull. Noone will fight the big bosses if the small and easy bosses give much better rewards.

Originally Posted by Opalia24

The reward players get to if they get in top 5 in this event is nothing compared to reward they get form 1000x 3 free event tickets. (1000 attacks from there alt.) 3000 tickets can easy be converted to 800 SR-girl levels = a boost of 100,000 SED by cheating.

Who would spend 1000$-2000$ on pudding to get to the top in an SS event if you can get the same puddings by cheating for 8 days ??? If nothing is done about cheaters either a) players quit or b) start to cheat themselves. Cheaters know they have high risk of being banned from a game so why should cheaters spend money on a game.

The top cheaters must be banned and the loop hole must be closed.

I hear that in Japan people are so honest that you can put a 100$ bill under a rock in the morning and come back and pick it up in the evening. Well players outside Japan are not so honest if you leave if you leave a loop-hole the size of a T-rex players will find it and use it.

Simple solution to this alt. problem just make is so that players can only attack each other once per day.
Pie only give Pero once per day so why don’t you do the same with attacks??
It also prevent people from offering guarantied 6 tickets wins from alt. that only use N-Girls.
It will make this mini game a bit harder but if will be the same for all players. Reward is already good enough in this mini game.

In last event one player got 2500 kills – He was not in top 100 and just a free player. Top5 players in last event spend 1500$ or more and got around 500 kills each. The free players got 2000 more rewards but the top players get rewards for getting in top 5. Only problem is that the players who spend 1500$ got around +200 SR-girls levels with there rewards while the free player got +1000 SR-girl levels from his rewards.

Why spend 1500$ on getting in top 5 a SS-event if you get 5 times better rewards spending 0$?
I think the free players that got 2500 kill must have made a new alt. every 12 hours of last event so he always could summon very weak boss that he could share with his main account and the main account could kill with one hit 24/7.

Solution here: make boss under half you slayers could give no reward and EP. All the bosses you summon yourself have a level between half you slayer Count and your slayer Count anyway so all the bosses you summon youself will alway give rewards if is just very essy bosses from friends and your alt. account that dont give rewards. In many games monster stop give exp when you get too powerfull. Noone will fight the big bosses if the small and easy bosses give much better rewards.

As I said before: Outside of the max 340 extra attacks their alt will get from normal regeneration of focus, cheaters are actually spending money on Pudding to allow those alts to give them 100% sure def wins.

What I find insulting from that is that these same players have good enough decks that they could just as easily have gotten 2k atk wins by using those same puddings in their main accounts. That would only have meant that the top5 that cheated would have gotten at least 85% of the total count they got by cheating.

What's more, by doing so with their main accounts, they would have gotten 42% more PeroColo Tickets than they got from all those def wins. That's 420 tickets/84 spins per 1k atks. At the numbers they were running? Tha's pretty much a whole Platinum Box there.

• 2k def wins = 6k tickets = 1.2k spins = 4x plat boxes = 4x Every Card, 24x R-Gacha, 136x N-Gacha, 404x SR Lvls in WC, 120x R Lvls in WC, 136x N Lvls in WC, 556k Pero, 112x Stamina Refills, 112x Focus Refills.
• 1.8k atk wins = 9k tickets = 1.8k spins = 6x plat boxes = 6x Every Card, 36x R-Gacha, 204x N-Gacha, 606x SR Lvls in WC, 160x R Lvls in WC, 204x N Lvls in WC, 834k Pero, 168x Stamina Refills, 168x Focus Refills.

The def wins net a total of at least 275 N-Lvls, 150 R-Lvls, 400 SR-Lvls, 550k Pero, and 110 refills for each bar, while the atk wins would yield at least 50% more. That's how much of a difference we're talking

How can you be sure they are spending money on alts rather than just having a bunch of alt accounts? If I were going to cheat in this way, that is what I'd do.

Originally Posted by Kotono

How can you be sure they are spending money on alts rather than just having a bunch of alt accounts? If I were going to cheat in this way, that is what I'd do.

Because to get 240~360 def wins in 3hs (as top5 was doing), you would need to run at least 25 to 40 alt accounts. And, while you can search for yoursel quite well with one or two alts, having 40 of them find you in 10 minutes or less, at the same time? That's just insane

Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde

Because to get 240~360 def wins in 3hs (as top5 was doing), you would need to run at least 25 to 40 alt accounts. And, while you can search for yoursel quite well with one or two alts, having 40 of them find you in 10 minutes or less, at the same time? That's just insane

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there's scripting and automation at play here as well. Which would make all of the difficulty of doing that just a matter of having enough systems at hand to do it.

Originally Posted by xero

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there's scripting and automation at play here as well. Which would make all of the difficulty of doing that just a matter of having enough systems at hand to do it.

Hmm, that could be done.
With what I learned when trying to find out how the chance/gacha worked, it wouldn't be that hard to build some MitM software to automate the self-attacking really. And there might be other options for that.
But I don't think that might be the case here...

Well if you were going to poke under the covers and do it via manufacturing the protocol you wouldn't need much in terms of resources in order to accomplish it... though I think that's a bit more technical than a handful of users out of ~10000 would do, I would suspect you'd need far more people playing for that to become an issue. I was thinking of it more from a userland automation point of view, people using things to simulate human interaction like autohotkey, selenium, and such.

Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde

Because to get 240~360 def wins in 3hs (as top5 was doing), you would need to run at least 25 to 40 alt accounts. And, while you can search for yoursel quite well with one or two alts, having 40 of them find you in 10 minutes or less, at the same time? That's just insane

Ranking list is not updated all the time so there can be jumps but I have not seem players getting more 60 def wins per hour - I an account can give 6 wins per hour so 10 alt accounts is all that is needed to become first. Even the player who became no. 1 in first half only got like 600 def wins per day. With 2-3 computer that is doable if you play 10-12 hours per day and have 10-20 alts.
If you have 2-3 computers it is even easyer to run many alt. We got 11000+ account in this event so I am cetain there are a few crasy people who would do just that.

You don't need a bunch of computers, just different browsers installed. Nutaku games are browser based, after all.

2 computer with 6 browers on each then you locked into all 12 accounts at same time - I am not going to test this but sound easy - If some people are willing to spend 2000$ to win an event they might be willing it install 6 browers too...

If players could only attack each other player once per day problem solved. Cant be too hard to code it so server remember who attacked who.