Originally Posted by JSensei

You seem to think that you are owed a share of pinks. No one is owed anything. I found it pretty easy to get a few pinks when I wanted them.

Furthermore, you seem to think that it is totally acceptable to insult anyone you wish in making your claim. If you believe he cheated, by all means, remove him. Remove anyone from your friend's list that you feel you should. The bigger issue is the way you make your claim and behave in a public forum. The insults and the comparisons to Hitler do little to help make your case.

and it seems you are owed to give your pinks to cheaters . and do not forget we are talking about cheating not how easy or hard to get pinks . and it seems you can not find something worthy to write since I can see what you replied to is actually a reply to you

Originally Posted by JSensei

I appreciated the pink box opens. I don't really worry that a pink box will have its timer run out, but it was nice to know that they were always opened and opened almost immediately.

Man, are you f-kin SERIOUS? Did you EVER had a pink box lost because it's timer went down to zero? Don't say dumb things, please. You can't be THAT stupid to not know that even lvl 10 f2p player can buy enough pink keys with his/her Pero to open you pink cases, and will eventually get pink keys even if he/she doesn't buy them at all, and you just can't have no friends, unless you manually remove every and all of them (because you get them automatically when you send Gifts while rolling any Exploration Gacha. Not to say thgose pink cases have insane amount of time until they expire. Which means, you just can't lose a pink case no matter what. So what's the point in saying "oh, i can worry not about my pink cases will expire"

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Originally Posted by Ladies lover

B)get all event SECs then be a pink macro and you can rank easily in top without to have to pay for recovery items I consider this to be extremely unfair

You know SEC's don't affect those Kairo /tokens from cases, don't you? They even don't affect those Kairo you get when you get kairo for choosing the right answer during Choice of Fate (and advance to the next Gambit level)

Also. I've got bored with searching and quoting, but i want to say something else.

Removing only EA won't give you anything, except losing a game's top SEG spawner and slayer. First of all removing him only makes him to not open the cases you spawn - not only pink, but silver and gold also - which is rather a disadvantage for you, than a benefit, and will only allow you to share your pink boxes with other players. Many of whom are using macros/pink camping themselves. Which makes removing EA (and warding him off of your pinks) pointless. So, if you want to share your pink boxes with lowbies (who really need stuff from them - even those puny N Gacha tickets, N Wild Cards and pero) you should also remove almost all (if not all) strong players from your friend list and fill it with lowbies. And if you want to get more pink cases from your friends, to open them yourself, you also need no remove all strong and average players from your friend list, since most strong players are either macroing/camping pinks themselves, OR have such strong players (maybe even EA) on their friend lists, so their strong friends will open all their pinks anyway, and you'll get nothing anyway.
And still, if you are already an average player, first: that stuff from pink boxes should be now of really low value for you (except, maybe, for R gacha tickets and Radars, but R Gacha tickets were reomved from Pink boxes during Phase 1 of last Gambit anyway) and second: even low level players often have at least one or two strong friends to kill their EGs/SEGs during Elite Guard events, so you can hardly find a player to befriend, who doesn't have a friend or two who will snitch all their pink boxes from you.
Also, being sure that your silver/gold cases would be opened and won't expire is more important, and strong players are more likely to have enough keys to open them for you / find such cases so you could open them for them etc. - whioch will give you significally more items, and those would more likely be significally more important items, too.
Also, if you remove all strong players, when Elite Guard event comes, you'll have to deal with those SEGS all alone - since low level players you picked to replace those strong macros/campers do little damage to even EGs - not speaking about SEGs and understand how to play very bad, so they'll be useless when Elite Guard Event comes. (but you, probably, already can solo your own EGs alone - though, i doubt you can solo your SEGs). So you have to be a EA level paying player to solo all Elite Guard Event on your own, if you decide to remove all strong players and average/weak players who have strong friends.
On the other hand, by sacrificing your pink cases to EA or other macro suers/pink campers, and by having strong players who have them as friends, you are kinda "paying a credit or fee" to them for helping you with your EGs/SEGs whenever you need their help with those, can be sure the even SEGs will always go down no matter what (which is much more important that making sure that even Golden case will be opened in time during Gambit - not speaking about silver and pink cases) not only because it will give you much better rewards (and most importantly - more of them at once!) than even Gold Cases in Gambit, but it will also count towards your SEG Elimination counter, which will ultimately give you precious SR Guaranteed/Revival Gacha ticket tah tyou'll hardly ever get otherwise! Not to mention that each SEG/EG you spend at least 1 Focus on and they kill will give you rewards equal to at least Silver case opening! And if you care about those low levl players that are "being robbed of your pink cases during Gambit by "evil cheaters", keep in mind the fact that those strong players, and even "macro fuhrers" also help those lowbies to deal with their EGs/SEGs too (even i remember my first Elite Guard Event where all the HBC top players, (including EA, btw) were on my friend list and helped me to fight those SEGs and EGs for me, showering me in free EP, Item Rewards and SEG Eliminations. Now, count all that and try to overthink your position about macros, maybe, just like i did recently...
I must also add that top players, (again, including EA) contribte alot to HBC community, sometimes providing vauleable info and statistics that we can't get otherwise, because we don't spen so much money on PPS and can't, for example, count how many times out of X tries something happens, and they also maintain and update our Wiki, including EA who seems to be adding much (if not - most) levelled-up images of different rare cards, like those from the Medal Trade and RevGacha - which is (at least for me) is very important. So yeah. Since i can't thank them otherwise and can't contribute to that myself since i have no free cash to spend on games, i'm fine with sharing my pink and other cases with them during Gambit, and provide them low level SEGs for slaying and getting easy EP during Elite Guard, since it's the least i can do to thank them for their job.
Yes, i kinda feel bad that i don't get enough Kairo for those 50k rewards quite often, since i don't benefit from kairo rewards from pink cases, and that i get less Radars to get Kairo on Kairo Chance Time, and get not quite enough R Gacha Tickets to get all Kurito's cards and all Limited R Gacha cards during those "mini-events", since i, again, don't get those R gacha Tickets i could get from my friends' Pink Cases, but you always have to pay something to get something... And in this case you pay those extra Pink Case Rewards for all the stuff and help you get from those strong players during Elite Guard and all other time (including verbal help, useful tips/hints/info and other stuff from them on Discord or HBC Shoutbox/forum).
I'm pretty sure people would whine / get angry / sad during Elite Guard quite equally, if all strong players would boycott them and leave their SEGs to themselves/not help anyone except their small team (say, ULMF team) - lowbies would get much less more valueable items, miss 1000 ranking unique reward cards, miss 100 SEG Elimination unique reward cards, miss SR/Revival Gacha tickets for 300 SEG Eliminations, waste Focus and lose EP on EGs/SEGs taht flee when their timer runs out, and totally SUCK not only at Gambit, but at Elite Guard instead (probably it could even be hard to nulock Reward Movies there - which, at least for me - almost the best stuff in the game - and you still can't view it on Youtube or Wiki or anywhere else yet - unlike those 50k Reward cards from Gambit, btw.
So yeah. Isn't it enough already? Why can't we all just stop and live (play) in harmony with each other?
When i first went here and had chats with people here i thought "what a nice forum, what friendly people are here" but the longer i stay, the uglier things are getting... And i really miss the "good old days" when i just came here last autumn...
Julia started this "macro shitstorm" while he was drunk. Then later he apologized to EA and said he was wrong. I don't know if he was just drunk or annoyed by someone else, or if there were other reasons for him to start this, and realized he was wrong later, or maybe he analyzed things as i did and understood he was wrong (not to say he was a big spender himself, as far as i know).
Then i saw "the top of the iceberg" and followed his way (though i've wrote back then at the very beginning of my thread that it's not something personal, but only a matter of ingame profit for me and my low-level friends - why i remove EA and all who has him on their friend lists from my friend list). Now i see that i was wrong just as Julia - even though i haven't made the same mistakes and turned it into personal hatem but it turned out that this strategy was ultimately profitless in the long terms in the end.
I'm not asking for forgiveness for my arrogance or for taking me back on EA's "noob train" (though, i guess i would be glad to hop on in again ^^' ) but i want to say that now i too realize i was wrong in bringing the old shit up once again after Julia, and i wonder, if we made a mistake and brought that up, sould (will?) someone stop that now, once and for all. I say, if you peaple want to blame someone, blame Nutaku/DMM for making the game as it is - allowing some players to play "unfair" comparing to you, not allowing you to get what you want, while some people can get that, etc.
I suggest we all just stop that shitstorm and switch to other, more important and really valueable topics. Now Collab event at least, or whatever.

Wow, i stopped this shit time ago and they still throwing knives about a closed event.

Originally Posted by Vic47

Man, are you f-kin SERIOUS? Did you EVER had a pink box lost because it's timer went down to zero? Don't say dumb things, please. You can't be THAT stupid to not know that even lvl 10 f2p player can buy enough pink keys with his/her Pero to open you pink cases, and will eventually get pink keys even if he/she doesn't buy them at all, and you just can't have no friends, unless you manually remove every and all of them (because you get them automatically when you send Gifts while rolling any Exploration Gacha. Not to say thgose pink cases have insane amount of time until they expire. Which means, you just can't lose a pink case no matter what. So what's the point in saying "oh, i can worry not about my pink cases will expire"

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You know SEC's don't affect those Kairo /tokens from cases, don't you? They even don't affect those Kairo you get when you get kairo for choosing the right answer during Choice of Fate (and advance to the next Gambit level)

I know that and don't mean it too in other words I am not talking about poor 10,50 & 100 kairos form pinks I am talking about recovery items because macros do not need to worry about stamina since they will get tons of shakes halves from pinks not mention radars too .


anyway thanks for the post Vic47 I liked it because it showed some dumbness of those who worry about their pink not be opened

Originally Posted by Vic47

Man, are you f-kin SERIOUS? Did you EVER had a pink box lost because it's timer went down to zero? Don't say dumb things, please. You can't be THAT stupid to not know that even lvl 10 f2p player can buy enough pink keys with his/her Pero to open you pink cases, and will eventually get pink keys even if he/she doesn't buy them at all, and you just can't have no friends, unless you manually remove every and all of them (because you get them automatically when you send Gifts while rolling any Exploration Gacha. Not to say thgose pink cases have insane amount of time until they expire. Which means, you just can't lose a pink case no matter what. So what's the point in saying "oh, i can worry not about my pink cases will expire"

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Crazy as it seems, I actually DID have a pink case expire on me during my first event, which happened to be Gambit 2. It's hard to imagine this happening, but none of the people on my friend's list had any clue what was going on. For a game that is easy to play, PPS doesn't really have very good instructions. I've even seen people post here that they didn't know that you got rewards when people open your boxes and missed out on those rewards.

But anyway, as I said in my reply, I was NOT worried about my pinks expiring. I knew that they'd be opened, and they were generally opened within ten minutes. I realize it doesn't matter whether they are opened in ten minutes or an hour, but it was more convenient for me to know that when I ran out of stamina and went to check, I could collect the rewards generated.

Originally Posted by Ladies lover

and it seems you are owed to give your pinks to cheaters . and do not forget we are talking about cheating not how easy or hard to get pinks . and it seems you can not find something worthy to write since I can see what you replied to is actually a reply to you

I generally assume that English is not your first language, so I give you a pass on a complete lack of grammar. That said, this time I have no idea what you mean. Are you trying to imply that I cheated as well? Not that I really care what you think, but I admit that I'm curious.

I'm sure when you reply, you'll be sure to compare me to Hitler again. After all, you are a bull in a china shop.

Originally Posted by Ladies lover

I know that and don't mean it too in other words I am not talking about poor 10,50 & 100 kairos form pinks I am talking about recovery items because macros do not need to worry about stamina since they will get tons of shakes halves from pinks not mention radars too .

Okay, i probably misunderstood since i hardly get any burgers/shakes from cases (even though i somehow got 12 half-burgers during this gambit, that all were unused and almost expired after it - i remembered abou them and tossed them to Kurito today, 1 hour before the Elite Guard Event launch Maint began. So i hardly needen those during Gambit anyway (especially since i skipped most of the 1 focus fights for pink cases and tried to use as much Focus go teg silver and gold keys and cases to get better rewards like Glasses, that i really needed and lacked this time. But yeah, nukaku screwed up cashers with their rewards in those boxes this time, so they decided to save their gold/silver keys they've bought with real money and they screwed people like me wit htheir casesthis time, blargh ==" )

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Originally Posted by JSensei

Crazy as it seems, I actually DID have a pink case expire on me during my first event, which happened to be Gambit 2. It's hard to imagine this happening, but none of the people on my friend's list had any clue what was going on. For a game that is easy to play, PPS doesn't really have very good instructions. I've even seen people post here that they didn't know that you got rewards when people open your boxes and missed out on those rewards.

But anyway, as I said in my reply, I was NOT worried about my pinks expiring. I knew that they'd be opened, and they were generally opened within ten minutes. I realize it doesn't matter whether they are opened in ten minutes or an hour, but it was more convenient for me to know that when I ran out of stamina and went to check, I could collect the rewards generated.

Exactly. That was when things were much different, and there were alot less players who knew what they were doing, and there were no macros/campers also, anyway back then. But we're talking here about what's going on in the game nowdays.

And yes, i agree withwhat you are saying about PPS in genereal - it is really "not much of a gameplay" game (so to say), but still lacks alot of explanations (even with those boring and reperitive event instructions from Airu at the first log in to the Event screen at the beginning of every Event, which, i'm pretty sure, most people skip) so peopel still continue to ask even the simpliest (but unobvious) things like "what to do with candy/Ex Wild cards, Vibrators etc."

Originally Posted by JSensei

I generally assume that English is not your first language, so I give you a pass on a complete lack of grammar. That said, this time I have no idea what you mean. Are you trying to imply that I cheated as well? Not that I really care what you think, but I admit that I'm curious.

I'm sure when you reply, you'll be sure to compare me to Hitler again. After all, you are a bull in a china shop.

you are right I think I must follow grammars very carefully to make things easy to understand to a dumb like you . After all, you are a cow head in a game forum

Let me make this clear: We are NOT continuing this discussion. For the sake of the sanity of our lessers and the prevention of animosity between those who would normally get along without thinking too hard about this, you WILL stop having your mentions on this thread, especially because it is over an event that has ended a few days ago AND much of the community has come to accept it is the event itself, not any individual player or minority of players, who should take the most blame here.

There is a Chinese proverb I consider suitable for this case and it inevitable revival down the road: "The wise learn from history. The average learn from experience. The foolish never learn."

I don't need the wise, though I appreciate their presence as it helps not to complicate things. But if you're going to show that you deserve any modicum of respect that we pay you, start learning why this thread in itself is a mistake, and take the steps to not further everyone's aggression or have something like this pop up down the road when this will inevitably revive itself once again by next Pero Gambit.

To anyone wanting to start another unwarranted scapegoat campaign or rile up the community without a logically sound cause, I highly advise you think long and hard about how far in the socially-accepted right you actually are, because if you're just doing this to blow off steam without any well-placed regard for the community itself, I will elect to have you removed from this forum permanently. My priority is to preserve the community's functionality, not cater to your misdirected selfish desires.

Either have a good day or go fuck yourself, I don't care which but I sure as hell don't want to see you back here trying to kick a hornets nest again.

Originally Posted by Vic47

Okay, i probably misunderstood since i hardly get any burgers/shakes from cases (even though i somehow got 12 half-burgers during this gambit, that all were unused and almost expired after it - i remembered abou them and tossed them to Kurito today, 1 hour before the Elite Guard Event launch Maint began. So i hardly needen those during Gambit anyway (especially since i skipped most of the 1 focus fights for pink cases and tried to use as much Focus go teg silver and gold keys and cases to get better rewards like Glasses, that i really needed and lacked this time. But yeah, nukaku screwed up cashers with their rewards in those boxes this time, so they decided to save their gold/silver keys they've bought with real money and they screwed people like me wit htheir casesthis time, blargh ==" )

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since I occasionally camp for pink I got a lot of half shakes that I can't remember their count . In about 2~3 hours of camping I got about 20 of them and a lot of radars and I missed only pink cases that were opened in less than 5 secs and I missed a lot . so you can imagine the huge numbers macros get . at the end it is your opinion to take the matter easy or seriously it differs according to play style and amount of time spent in the game

Originally Posted by Ladies lover

since I occasionally camp for pink I got a lot of half shakes that I can't remember their count . In about 2~3 hours of camping I got about 20 of them and a lot of radars and I missed only pink cases that were opened in less than 5 secs and I missed a lot . so you can imagine the huge numbers macros get . at the end it is your opinion to take the matter easy or seriously it differs according to play style and amount of time spent in the game

And there's the issue. He didn't get enough shakes and radars. This whole fight is over the fact that he only got 20 shakes. Clearly, he was owed more.