guys i´m in top 700 so.. WHY i only have 17k panties in this rate i will not reach 51k to the sr girl in 5 days

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Originally Posted by SumTingRong

so... u make your clicker wait a few seconds...

If I understand the problem correctly, it isn't so much that the macro does things automatically as it is that it does it nearly instantaneously for all of a target's cases. Making everyone (macros included) have to wait between clicks solves the problem of the macro taking only a partial second to unlock all of someone's cases, letting human players have something of a chance to compete with the macro.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Saved up 9 eGatcha tickets. I can only imagine how bad it would be to not get any slayers after blowing 3 months worth of eGatcha tickets. I did manage to get one R Alpha slayer. I don't know if a 4.32 multiplier will be enough to make top 1000.

Do you not play a lot or something? I've only had a like 2.1 multiplier for the first half and now 2.81 with the extra n-slayer and I'm at 42k panties. I also have only used like 10 radars on accident and only a couple glasses.

Also whats wrong with the fix? I think its pretty good since most cheaters were probably just using an auto clicker set up to do it which cant adjust for the moving open button.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If I understand the problem correctly, it isn't so much that the macro does things automatically as it is that it does it nearly instantaneously for all of a target's cases. Making everyone (macros included) have to wait between clicks solves the problem of the macro taking only a partial second to unlock all of someone's cases, letting human players have something of a chance to compete with the macro.

For a macro to open cases instantaneously (or as close to that as possible), it wouldn't care about the position of the button, but it would just send the registered click. To combat that, they would have to randomize both the button's name and position in the code, so you couldn't look for a specific string.
Macros were most likely just a repeat of mouse movements (refresh pink cases, click on first position, click use, click close, repeat), which does mean it takes a couple of seconds between each case.
My cases still seem to be opened at the same rate, and I still open cases in a similar rate that I did, so not sure how effective the change was. But if complaints go down, I'll write it as a success.

Originally Posted by nip101

Do you not play a lot or something? I've only had a like 2.1 multiplier for the first half and now 2.81 with the extra n-slayer and I'm at 42k panties. I also have only used like 10 radars on accident and only a couple glasses.

I have not used any pero radars or glasses yet. I have another eGacha ticket for login bonus coming to me in three days and I want to see how that goes before I start using them (I have around 150 radars and 30 glasses saved up).

I'm just a little disappointed in the eGacha. After 9 tickets I was hoping to land at least 3 or 4 slayers. I actually wanted to spend all my tickets on the last Gambit, but then I read that you should wait until second half to start using them. Last time I stopped after 3 times of not even seeing a slayer. I don't know how some players manage to "get all the slayers" with just 4 or 5 tickets. In reality it looks like it's only going to get harder as time goes on and more cards go into the gacha.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have not used any pero radars or glasses yet. I have another eGacha ticket for login bonus coming to me in three days and I want to see how that goes before I start using them (I have around 150 radars and 30 glasses saved up).

I'm just a little disappointed in the eGacha. After 9 tickets I was hoping to land at least 3 or 4 slayers. I actually wanted to spend all my tickets on the last Gambit, but then I read that you should wait until second half to start using them. Last time I stopped after 3 times of not even seeing a slayer. I don't know how some players manage to "get all the slayers" with just 4 or 5 tickets. In reality it looks like it's only going to get harder as time goes on and more cards go into the gacha.

Whoa there...that approach actually does lead to problems. If you are brute forcing the event without any slayer (SEC?) cards from the get go and waiting until there's like 3 days left, you're gonna struggle pretty hard to get any p...pa...(I'm not saying it).

The question on slayers is delicate since using ALL your event gacha tickets on the first half does in fact cost you the "New-Alpha" line which effectively 4-6x's your overall gain. That being said, you shouldn't throw that aside and hit a rough start with saving up for the next part.

As for your other question of how players get all the slayers, I don't have the exact situation myself but I usually come close enough:

SR girls (in event gachas, at least for me) are limited to single quantity, as in once you draw them they don't show up again unless you deliberately refresh the list. (once again, at least for me) The list doesn't refresh on its own, and carries over to the next event so any SR girl you've knocked off the pile stays knocked off. Thus, if you clean the event SR list up early, carrying over to the next event is only the new additions, which all tend to be slayers. On top of that, if in the previous event you burn a few event gachas afterwards looking not for SR slayers but R slayers, the "get an SR chance" rises, so when an SR girls finally does show up she can be drawn at 100% chance from the start.

...might be a bit complicated so I'll just explain what I did/do:

Back to I think EG 6 I managed to draw all the SRs from the event list, slayers included. The next event that came after that, the event list updated so I only had one SR that could be drawn at all, so using one event gacha paired with a CR let me draw her right away. However, it didn't allow for drawing R slayers so aside from saving one event gacha ticket for the next event, I burned the other tickets trying to find the R slayer.

Whether or not I got that slayer is irrelevant to the next event. Burning the tickets drove up the chance of SR and kept it at 100%. Normally it would reset once an SR shows up, but since there is no SR to draw from a 100% SR guarantee...

Thus my cycle goes (programmically speaking):

Previous data: 100% chance of SR, at least 1 eGacha ticket available, at least 1 CR available.
-Start of next event: Draw eGacha, observe "5-step up" animation (make damn sure it's 5, I've been fooled by it before), use CR
--If SR slayer only appears: Draw SR slayer, conserve 1 eGacha ticket and 1 CR, use surplus eGacha tickets with CRs
--If R slayer appears with SR slayer: Draw R slayer, (purchase when possible and) use eGacha tickets (with CRs when there are multiple R slayers) until "5-step up" animation appears again, observe SR slayer, and draw SR slayer. Then return to conserving 1 eGacha w/CR until the next eGacha update.

It's also not mentioned but if you do have a budget (albeit limited), during just about every event, you can buy eGacha tickets from the 1-per-day deal at 100 gold ($1) each and for each event, the first eGacha ticket purchase you make outside of the 1-per-day deal is also 100 gold before it changes to 300 for subsequent purchases. While it doesn't account for CRs, it means you can more or less stock up on as many eGacha tickets at discount price as there are days in the event+1. If you're going all-freemium, all bets are off but for most paying players, the quantity of eGachas you can get at discount is adequate to get at least 2 of the R/SR slayer cards if not more. On top of that, the slayer effects of New-Alpha types generally carry over to the next event as Beta types, which saves you the trouble of having to draw them again.

Biggest note to the events in this particular game (and biggest drawback for some players) is that if you keep yourself up to date with the events regularly, you don't have to spend nearly as much to get far in the events. If you lag behind for even up to 2 events in a row, you'll either have to spend a bit more to play catch-up or give up and fall further behind, ultimately hitting the point of no recovery.

Originally Posted by ChibiKika

Whoa there...that approach actually does lead to problems. If you are brute forcing the event without any slayer (SEC?) cards from the get go and waiting until there's like 3 days left, you're gonna struggle pretty hard to get any p...pa...(I'm not saying it).

I have plenty of peronamin to play with. This is the only event that really benefits from peronamin use, and I've never had a multiplier at 4.32.

Free players like me have to adopt an accumulate-and-wait strategy, where you strategically decide which events you are going to cash in your saved up premium items. With Elite Guard and to a lesser extent Shards, enough activity can land you in the top 1000. Gambit, however, always requires slayers. This seemed like a good event to cash out for, as the prize for top 1000 in Shards was a Beta Slayer, upping the multiplier. I had thought I had a chance at the down-the-line prizes (in the millions) given all my saved up radars and glasses. Bad luck out of the eGacha (getting new cards but not slayers) kind of curb stomped those plans.

The accumulate-and-wait thing has special implications for Pero Gambit: if you're not going to get the 50k prize, save every last Radar and Glasses for the next event. Also, because I was lower level I tended to use glasses to pass locations 185-200, but now that I am high enough level I don't really need to do that anymore.

I have 3 days to another eGacha ticket. Looking at the box, it says SR 18/21, Beta SR 1/1, Alpha SR 2/2. Still hoping for at least an R slayer. Note that I actually opened 5 SRs out of the 9 tickets I used (iirc), but I tended to go for Rs I didn't have instead of SRs that I did already have.

One last thing: I absolutely hate these new temp items. I have to pay attention to whether or not I have a raw peronamin and see if I have enough focus/raw puddings to continue. I never can be certain as to exactly when a pudding will be lost so I feed them to Kurito if I'm unsure. You can still game the system by just not opening cases until you want your temp items, but again, it requires paying attention. It's just more hassle all around.

you guys try to open 2 consective cases with refresh list included
takes 3-4 seconds

i even doubt macro event existed... some people are just fanatic

Originally Posted by nip101

Do you not play a lot or something? I've only had a like 2.1 multiplier for the first half and now 2.81 with the extra n-slayer and I'm at 42k panties. I also have only used like 10 radars on accident and only a couple glasses.

The answer, as always, is...it depends on your luck. I'm having better success than he had, but not as much as you do. I play just about constantly when awake, saved my raw stuff in my cases/gift box for the second half, got really lucky (for me) with a 4.22 multiplier, and currently have only 31K panties at area 140 after deciding that this was the event to burn all my radars. I feel somewhat confident that I'll make the 51K/200 areas, but my luck with the panty selection has really sucked and my luck with Choice of Fate has only been marginally better.

mmm im far...O.o i only have 26k panties...but im not worried about dont get 51k..has gotten all 51k for last perogambit...and this is way better than last...this time i have 4.8 multiplier...last was 1.44 (only n slayers)...but well im waiting...still not burn those glasses+radars...but well im not so lucky....

the new anti-cheat measure is a joke. Look how bar moves.

In fact, EA broke the ranking again.