Quote Originally Posted by ChibiKika View Post
Ah...something I forgot to mention when looking through Probiller's T&C:

It's vague but in the same area they more or less say that you shouldn't have more than one person using a subscriber account, it also says you are "liable for unauthorized use of service until MG Billing or the site is notified of the security breach by e-mail or telephone", pretty much...if it's fraud, you won't get a refund until you say it's fraud and they agree.

Back to the original issue...

I'll agree that Nutaku may have the concern that sharing an account with others may pose the risk of a minor accessing their age-inappropriate material, and that their seemingly minor edits to the ToS reflect a safety net they can use in the event that particular instance is brought to light but ultimately I find in most game companies that have that clause, they only use that right when something serious occurs like a user blatantly (publicly) goes about boasting something that was most certainly a direct violation or the gaming community that individual was in already wanted him/her gone for bad conduct of a different sort and the company happened to find out the violation was going on as well. They often don't drop the ban hammer if you're at the very least on the surface being a "model citizen" with a loosely interpreted violation hidden in the closet and they'd only take it that far if your skeletons are out on the street dancing about.

As a result I'm still leaning towards the likeliness that this is an incident mostly in regards to Probiller as their system of conduct in the terms matches what happened in this particular instance. The system flagged the use of different payment methods linked to very different individuals in different regions, a fraud alert was set off and subsequently the subscriber account locked down. Nutaku, being the site connected to this account, was notified and probably in the chain reaction chose to lock down their side of the account as well.

Frankly at this point I'm not even sure if there's a resolution to this problem. If I were in this situation. I'd contact Probiller to state that this was an honest mistake between me and some friends and that it won't happen again (have to realize at this point that you are quite literally not allowed to have more than one person making purchases on the account) and from that point, try to convince Nutaku that the Probiller side has been resolved and that I'd like my account reactivated and what steps would be necessary for me to do so.

I'm remembering from your posted picture earlier though that the Probiller customer service representative was unable to find your account, meaning there's a chance the account number and primary credit card holder was set to one of your friends for whatever reason. On that front I think you have the option of either trying to get your friend(s) to help you resolve it or contacting nutaku again to ask them for the account number as it should be linked to your presently-deactivated Nutaku account. If they're unwilling or unable to do that, well...not sure then. Probiller's been pretty confusing on my end to be honest so I've always used Epoch/Paypal.

I'm not gonna go and say "You're fucked" just yet, but frankly Probiller has already identified you as fradulent and Nutaku is likely now aware that more than one person has accessed your account. You're pretty much now in a state where they can officially cut you loose if they so desire.
I agree that the second scenario is the more likely one. I'm merely trying to explain the change in ToS. It doesn't necessarily have to be a minor, but the whole idea of signing up for Nutaku means that you agree to certain things. This agreement gives them some coverage should they ever need it for any reason. If you share your account, you can share it with people that have not explicitly agreed to the things in the ToS. In an environment that is increasingly litigious, I think they might be changing things to be extra careful.

Then you take the second scenario. That is almost assuredly either THE cause or the primary cause. But regardless, I think the ToS might be changing in such a way that sharing is not allowed. Much like my example of speeding, I think 99% of the people that share accounts will never be caught, but the ones that are will likely be punished severely to make an example.

Is it dumb? Maybe. Do they care? Clearly not. We are all at Nutaku's mercy. The best any of us can hope is to not do anything that attracts unwanted attention, especially if you are a paid player. If they ban me, they don't lose a dime of income. If they ban a casher, they potentially lose out on money. I'd probably support Nutaku, but I can't bring myself to support a company that I think is relatively oppressive to its user base. I'll play the game, but only because it's oddly addicting. But they won't get a dime, mostly on principle unless they change a LOT.