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  1. #11
    A thanks, makes me feel less bad about freeloading. It kinda felt cheap/dirty to do it, but if everyone does it and its considered normal in this type of game.... TIME TO FREELOAD BABY!


  2. #12
    Nothing wrong w/ freeloading but the downside is depending on how low your sed is you become 100% reliant on someone else killing your EGs. That wont be a big issue for the first week but during the second a lot of your higher sed friends wont be helping you kill normal EGs.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by nip101 View Post
    Nothing wrong w/ freeloading but the downside is depending on how low your sed is you become 100% reliant on someone else killing your EGs. That wont be a big issue for the first week but during the second a lot of your higher sed friends wont be helping you kill normal EGs.
    Nope. Not even a little. I'll reserve every focus I have for the constant onslaught of SEGs and little else. I won't even be killing my OWN EGs. I'll elixir them away until I draw a SEG. Hell, unless I can REALLY easily take down my own SEGs, I will STILL share them. I have enough SED to rock phase 1, but unless I get a couple slayers, I'll be next to useless in phase 2 with only 4M SED.

    That'll put me in the boat of poking SEGs and hoping to hold onto rank 300-500 or so, instead of keeping my rank of ~80 now.

  4. #14
    About the freeloading in phase 1. I'm a newbie player, just had 440k event SED(250k SED). If i constantly freeloading the EGs, how can i have enough EP for the reward?

  5. #15
    One quick offtop question, sorry for that. Does egatcha box by it own reset once you reach 0SR cards or do you have to reset it manually?

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesRJC View Post
    One quick offtop question, sorry for that. Does egatcha box by it own reset once you reach 0SR cards or do you have to reset it manually?
    No, it does not reset. But, DO NOT EVER reset the gachabox, unless it states "Alpha SR: 0/1 Beta SR: 0/1" when you still do not have those slayer cards.
    The slayer cards are in addition to the other SR cards, which fall under the "SR Cards: X/21". So, you can have the gacha box state:
    Alpha SR: 1/1
    Beta SR: 1/1
    SR Cards: 0/21 <-- this means the regular SR cards depleted.
    Which basically means that the next SR you pull is guaranteed to be a slayer card!

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    Something I noticed: some people share their EGs every single time. I hit one, thinking they needed a hand, 3 minutes later they bring up a new one. A little investigation showed the persons' unmodified SED would've been enough already to bring it down, so, in other words, they were slacking their kills for some reason..

    However, rules of thumb for phase 1:
    1. If you can beat it yourself, then do beat it yourself, even if it takes multiple hits, it's more points to you!
    2. Don't bother beating other peoples' EGs, especially not if they take way less damage to beat than a weak hit of yours! You get way more points from beating your own EGs and keeping your avarage damage per hit high.

    -Getting the last hit in doubles the base points you get for the kill
    -Dealing most damage doubles the base points you get for the kill
    These bonusses are additive, not multiplative, so getting the last hit and being the one dealing most damage nets you three times the base points.

    While the amount of damage you deal is limited by your SED, your main limitation in turning that SED into Event Points, is your Focus!
    1 million SED equals 100,000 minimal damage on a weak attack (1 Focus)
    100,000 damage equals 10,000 Event Points
    Ergo, 1 million SED equals a minimum of 10,000 Event Points per point of focus

    If you get the last hit /or/ deal most damage, then your 1 million SED suddenly equals a minimum of 20,000 EP per point of focus
    If you get both the last hit and deal most damage, then your 1 million SED suddenly equals a minimum of 30,000 EP per point of focus

    So, the trick to earning as much EP as possible, is to maximize the amount of EP you get per point of focus, and the best way to do that, is to both deal most damage and getting the last hit! Sharing your EG after only a weak hit, basically means you forfeit a third (last hit), possibly even two thirds (most damage as well), of your potential event points! So ask yourself, do I want 10,000, 20,000 or maybe 30,000 EP for that point of focus?

    Killing off someone elses EG means that, although you might get that last hit, you will often miss out on the most damage bonus.
    But, it gets worse when you're doing an overkill! If that EG needed only 50,000 damage to get killed, while your weak attack deals at least 100,000 damage, then you get only 5,000 EP for the damage, which may be increased to 10,000 or 15,000 EP for the bonusses. So you effectively got 15,000 EP less than you could've had for that point of focus.
    Do that twice, and you're already a point of focus behind on your potential gain.

    Now, some people share/help to help eachother out. Especially in phase 2, most of us can hardly get around sharing/helping to deal with the SEGs and to get their SEG-kill counter up.
    But for phase 1? Seriously, no, it's not worth it, the Support Energy ranking rewards aren't that awesome to strive for a high position and waste focus on EGs that people could've easily killed themselves. It's good to help those who really can't handle the big EGs yet, and sometimes a friend has to go offline and "leaves it up for grabs", but I'm ignoring the ones who constantly share what they could've killed themselves.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Drip View Post

    While the amount of damage you deal is limited by your SED, your main limitation in turning that SED into Event Points, is your Focus!
    1 million SED equals 100,000 minimal damage on a weak attack (1 Focus)
    100,000 damage equals 10,000 Event Points
    Ergo, 1 million SED equals a minimum of 10,000 Event Points per point of focus

    If you get the last hit /or/ deal most damage, then your 1 million SED suddenly equals a minimum of 20,000 EP per point of focus
    If you get both the last hit and deal most damage, then your 1 million SED suddenly equals a minimum of 30,000 EP per point of focus

    .
    How can 100.000 dames equal to 10k point? I have a 450k event SED now and when i full atk a boss with ~450k HP, i only have about 12-14k point.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Drip View Post
    so, in other words, they were slacking their kills for some reason..
    Each EG kill gives all participants a reward (though my sucky luck usually means it's pero), as well as an extra reward to the one that found it.
    Additionally, each time you kill an EG, you can encounter another in the gacha, no matter who's EG you killed.

    After some SED point, when you know for sure that you will be able to hit the 1000 rank with ease, sharing EG means more rewards are given out, even if less EPs are earned. And it also helps you find more SEG in phase 2, since a friend of yours could kill your EG and go looking for another encounter, even if he already has one running.

    But yeah, if your goal is EP, then it's best to share only those you can't kill yourself, or only those that you've already done more than 50% of their health in damage.
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  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post
    Each EG kill gives all participants a reward (though my sucky luck usually means it's pero), as well as an extra reward to the one that found it.
    Additionally, each time you kill an EG, you can encounter another in the gacha, no matter who's EG you killed.

    After some SED point, when you know for sure that you will be able to hit the 1000 rank with ease, sharing EG means more rewards are given out, even if less EPs are earned. And it also helps you find more SEG in phase 2, since a friend of yours could kill your EG and go looking for another encounter, even if he already has one running.

    But yeah, if your goal is EP, then it's best to share only those you can't kill yourself, or only those that you've already done more than 50% of their health in damage.
    I play hard in phase 1 to rack up as many EP as possible. In phase 2, my EP collection will go down because I am not even remotely concerned with things like last hitting or most damage. At that point, the biggest draw is to get the SEG elimination counter as high as possible for the drops.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by JSensei View Post
    I play hard in phase 1 to rack up as many EP as possible. In phase 2, my EP collection will go down because I am not even remotely concerned with things like last hitting or most damage. At that point, the biggest draw is to get the SEG elimination counter as high as possible for the drops.
    I am poking as many as possible to stack on SR wild cards and puddings for phase 2 in order to help burn the SEGs better. I do hope that the people who's EGs I poke don't mind it to much. I try to take down my own bosses I share, but often a high player nukes it down before I can properly handle it. :P

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