Proposal: Elite Guard Events - SEG Spawners call thread

[ChibiKika]

1) The heavy hitter must be a p2w player who spends loads of money - Only around 10 on our server those.
2) You need atleast 4-5 mill pero for elxils - how many free players got that atm ?

Free players dont really have a chance doint this event.

P2W should spend 200$ to get all slayer girls and 300$ on puddings. If they got load of friends or alt to send them lightning bosses they will get the 150 kills fast.

"loads of money" is kinda inspecific, but admittedly you won't find many players willing to buy "OVER 9000!!!!! *crushes scouter*" puddings but if you can latch a contract with just one decent to moderate spender (and I don't mean a measly $20, no offense Kotono), your credit into the event works incredibly well. It may not be 150 Limited SR worthy, but it'll get you fairly far...so I would like to believe at least. Take Hiiro for instance. Hiiro, I'd wager, has somewhere around 1m event SED but over 100 SEG Elimination cred and the note is that most, if not all, of them came from him (her?) being the spawner and redirecting it out to a heavy hitter (or several, depending on circumstance) in such a way that it was guaranteed to be taken out.

4-5m pero for elixir, while on paper sounds necessary, really isn't. You could just use 1 focus to make a weak attack on a boss and throw it at all your punch buddies, use the residual participation prize income from that to buy elixirs as you go, and nix regular bosses when you burn through the focus too fast. The ultimate punchline to it is that you never attack anything more than once, but at the same time you may not be able to support others as a devoted spawner.

You don't need $200 to get all the slayer girls (or wait, are you also counting card reveals into that? I don't really count them because I usually have surplus before the event to begin with). At worst case scenario, $150 but unless you have rotten luck or PPS devs are trolling you (which incidentally may happen more often than we expect), I'd say $45 if you're fairly lucky, $90 if you're not. This is based on the estimate that there are ~20 SR girls stored in the event box, it takes on average 3 event gacha tickets to get an SR (using Reveals), N and R slayers are usually grabbed as an "on-the-way" kinda thing, so you'd need at most 60 tickets, 20-25 Reveals (I'd suggest you gather the reveals before the event itself), and you should be set.

And $300 for pudding...would fall into the "MONSTER TRUCK RALLY!!! *moshing*" degree. Non-aggressive players need only spend $100 (literally $105...or something like $110.25 if you use paypal cuz of that retarded 5% slap-on) to buy about 150 puddings to use in emergencies should they get called to takedown duty without being physically ready to perform.

Point is, yes you need to find a P2W player just because you're a F2P player doesn't mean you can't mooch off the P2W guy and based on how much help you can bring him, he'll be just as happy as you are at getting your goodies.

[Kotono]

I'm not saying my $20 should have given me all the gacha girls. In fact, I'd expect to spend hundreds for all of them.
My irritation is the fact that my "measly" 20$ isn't enough to get me the EVENT card. Actually, that money went to waste already because the changed the slayers. Instead, I'm forced to spend hundreds if I want a chance at it. I've NEVER played a game besides this one that forced me to do that for the event card. Every other time, the event card is obtainable by spending little to nothing. Rather, more of a "thanks for continuing to play" kind of thing. While all the spenders are trying for leader boards and going for the limited cards from being such and such rank or the limited gacha rewards. That kind of thing I don't have an issue with, because I don't care to be on top when it costs hundreds to be there.

It's just, the way this type of event works is incredibly greedy. If you want to attack more than 1 time every 30 minutes, you spend 70 cents per additional attack. It's just.. no.
If I want to take down these bosses and get kill credit, then with my sub-700k event SED, I'd have to spend 14 puddings for every 10 mil HP I have to burn through. 14 x .7 = $9.8 to kill a single boss. WTF?

It's too early for bosses this strong for the majority of us.

[ChibiKika]

It's too early for bosses this strong for the majority of us.

That, I agree with. Sometimes feels the devs are basing the progression/growth of this game on the players who are obsessively strong, like way stronger than the majority of the community and when events come out that assume the entire player base has matching abilities to those select few, stuff like this can happen.

Well, in respects to our positions as customers, we more or less have 3 choices:

1. Bitch and moan (if unsuccessful, increase your volume and repeat as needed)
2. Adapt
3. Leave

And harsh as that may sound, it more or less is all it comes down to in the end, no matter how much professionalism and incentive is plugged into the mix.

[lolix]

"loads of money" is kinda inspecific, but admittedly you won't find many players willing to buy "OVER 9000!!!!! *crushes scouter*" puddings but if you can latch a contract with just one decent to moderate spender (and I don't mean a measly $20, no offense Kotono), your credit into the event works incredibly well. It may not be 150 Limited SR worthy, but it'll get you fairly far...so I would like to believe at least. Take Hiiro for instance. Hiiro, I'd wager, has somewhere around 1m event SED but over 100 SEG Elimination cred and the note is that most, if not all, of them came from him (her?) being the spawner and redirecting it out to a heavy hitter (or several, depending on circumstance) in such a way that it was guaranteed to be taken out.

4-5m pero for elixir, while on paper sounds necessary, really isn't. You could just use 1 focus to make a weak attack on a boss and throw it at all your punch buddies, use the residual participation prize income from that to buy elixirs as you go, and nix regular bosses when you burn through the focus too fast. The ultimate punchline to it is that you never attack anything more than once, but at the same time you may not be able to support others as a devoted spawner.

You don't need $200 to get all the slayer girls (or wait, are you also counting card reveals into that? I don't really count them because I usually have surplus before the event to begin with). At worst case scenario, $150 but unless you have rotten luck or PPS devs are trolling you (which incidentally may happen more often than we expect), I'd say $45 if you're fairly lucky, $90 if you're not. This is based on the estimate that there are ~20 SR girls stored in the event box, it takes on average 3 event gacha tickets to get an SR (using Reveals), N and R slayers are usually grabbed as an "on-the-way" kinda thing, so you'd need at most 60 tickets, 20-25 Reveals (I'd suggest you gather the reveals before the event itself), and you should be set.

And $300 for pudding...would fall into the "MONSTER TRUCK RALLY!!! *moshing*" degree. Non-aggressive players need only spend $100 (literally $105...or something like $110.25 if you use paypal cuz of that retarded 5% slap-on) to buy about 150 puddings to use in emergencies should they get called to takedown duty without being physically ready to perform.

Point is, yes you need to find a P2W player just because you're a F2P player doesn't mean you can't mooch off the P2W guy and based on how much help you can bring him, he'll be just as happy as you are at getting your goodies.

Actually , if u do some calculations , 5 milion pero isn't that far fetched. Think a bit : to reach the quota u want , u at least 30-40 SEGs per day , yes ? For a free player to spawn that many , they would have to keep ignoring normal bosses and use elixirs to get rid of them , till they spawn a Dark airu. That has 2 effects : 1 very little EP for them even with the SEGs since they will have done only 1 weak attack , and no normal boses because they wanted to spawn SEGS. That is generally okay with sumeone in top 500 , because he is very likely to still get the SR card from normal EP rank rewards. And second effect would be high amounts of pero used for elixirs. Think : 1 elixir is 5k , yes ? Considering from my experience , Dark airus apear once in 8-10 normal bosses , that would mean at least 40-50k pero used for 1 boss. Considering u need at least 30-40 a day , that means easily 1.2-2kk pero per day. To that u add another 150-200k for elixirs to cut the boss's life in half , and u can easily reach 1.5kk pero used per day , which is quite high.....and that still depends on how lucky u are with SEG spawns. If u are unluky , that can easily double.