Originally Posted by Unregistered

Only someone with really high SED would say that it is a waste to use drinks. For low level players it can be a struggle and worry to get the SEG's you spawn to get seduced.

Every time you beat an EG you spawned, their avarage level goes up a little. During the last Elite Guard event, I encountered SEGs with both 1,000,000 health and SEGs with over 70,000,000 health right after eachother. 1,000,000 I can handle with a weak attack. 70,000,000 I couldn't even handle with a single full attack. I roughly categorized them in Double, Normal and Small sizes.
So, eventually, especially if you kill every single EG, you'll run into SEGs which you just can't beat without pudding, halving or a friend with much more SED than yourself, no matter how high your own SED is.

The trick that worked for me, was to have them level out just around the bracket where I could generally beat them, so where I can beat the Normal size with a full attack or 3-5 weak attacks, but needed a big hitter or halve its health for the Double Sized SEGs. Lacking the bigger hitter than myself in my friendslist, halving it had the same effect.
Scaring normal EGS meant I could move onto the next SEG without raising the avarage level any further above my capacity.

In the end, I'm generally happy if I make the top 300 rankings. Any higher than that is welcome, but not my aim.

Originally Posted by Drip

During the last Elite Guard event, I encountered SEGs with both 1,000,000 health and SEGs with over 70,000,000 health right after eachother.

how did you encounter SEGs with over 70 mil health? the max lvl was 60 in the last 2 EG events.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

how did you encounter SEGs with over 70 mil health? the max lvl was 60 in the last 2 EG events.

Could've been 60 million, but still, my modified SED then was somewhere between 35 and 40 million, and I definitely couldn't beat them without pudding or halving or a higher SED friend the latter of which I didn't have at that time.
But given the choice between using pudding (which is hard to get and could as well be used for another SEG) and an Elixer (which is easy to get for a few thousand Pero, which I have in abundance anyway), I picked, and will always pick the Elixer.

If you don't have slayer cards, the encounter rate on SEGs can be rather low. I might find 10 EGs before I run into a SEG. To make this process easier, I burned through a couple hundred elixirs. Eventually, I would run into a SEG, poke it, share it, and then do it again. I ended up with a little over 400 SEGs last event, so it sure seems to work.

After the first phase, unless I'm going to bed or something and just need to burn focus, I don't bother wasting a single focus on EGs. I will hunt EGs relentlessly during phase 1, but after that, meh.

Originally Posted by JMich

But as I said before, if using elixir works for you, who am I to argue about it? I still think sharing the EGs give more SEGs in the long run, but can't say I've run the numbers for it.

No need to run any numbers, the comparison wouldn't make much sense anyways since the two methods uses different kinds of 'fuel'.
My point is that focus is to valuable to use for trying to spawn SEG's by attacking EG's.

Last EG event I started using lots of elixirs near the end, and my spawn rate of SEG's went up drastically, while my money went down. I guess it's because I was spawning the bulk of SEG's in my friends circle at the time, but it's still a bit worrysome considering I only have about 300k now...

While talking about the EG-event I just have to mention that I find it strange that the slayers you get during this event doesn't increase your rewards very much, considering you get most of it from poking SEG's, and a small poke doesn't mean smaller rewards. Perhaps they will throw in e-gacha tickets in the top-tier rankers like in this event. That would make it more interesting.

Originally Posted by Lone Crow

No need to run any numbers, the comparison wouldn't make much sense anyways since the two methods uses different kinds of 'fuel'.
My point is that focus is to valuable to use for trying to spawn SEG's by attacking EG's.

Last EG event I started using lots of elixirs near the end, and my spawn rate of SEG's went up drastically, while my money went down. I guess it's because I was spawning the bulk of SEG's in my friends circle at the time, but it's still a bit worrysome considering I only have about 300k now...

While talking about the EG-event I just have to mention that I find it strange that the slayers you get during this event doesn't increase your rewards very much, considering you get most of it from poking SEG's, and a small poke doesn't mean smaller rewards. Perhaps they will throw in e-gacha tickets in the top-tier rankers like in this event. That would make it more interesting.

Guessing you're relatively low level? After a certain point, Pero becomes all but meaningless. At any given time, I have anywhere from 7-10 million pero. There's nothing worthwhile to spend it on, so it just accumulates. Eventually, you'll be in the same boat.

Originally Posted by JSensei

Guessing you're relatively low level? After a certain point, Pero becomes all but meaningless. At any given time, I have anywhere from 7-10 million pero. There's nothing worthwhile to spend it on, so it just accumulates. Eventually, you'll be in the same boat.

I figured that would happen eventually, but still have lots of cards left to level up. currently at 1.2M SED.

Originally Posted by Lone Crow

I figured that would happen eventually, but still have lots of cards left to level up. currently at 1.2M SED.

You shouldn't be too far away from that point then.

I certainly didn't level up all my cards yet, but I'm at 1.475 mil SED now. Especially for the normal cards, I rarely use wildcards. Instead, when bored, I burn through a few hundred nGacha tickets from the big stacks I occasionally buy for Gambit. As a result, I now have normal cards with more than twice the Ex-level I have on my Shards deck. And it randomly leveled up a couple of R and SR cards along the way as well. With a bit of luck, I'll reach 1.5 mil SED before the EG event.

Maybe I'll just feed all the N Wildcards I gathered during events and whatnot to Kurito sometime, for some candy. Or trade them up to R Wildcards or something.

Originally Posted by Drip

Instead, when bored, I burn through a few hundred nGacha tickets from the big stacks I occasionally buy for Gambit.

a few hundred?? i get bored to death just going through 50 of them, and I have about 1100 of them now, but only had about 100 before gambit. Go figure where all my money went. Although, I don't think I lost as much as when I used elixirs.

Oh, and I have about 120 R and SR cards left to level up, so don't think I will run out any time soon.

Originally Posted by Lone Crow

a few hundred?? i get bored to death just going through 50 of them, and I have about 1100 of them now, but only had about 100 before gambit. Go figure where all my money went. Although, I don't think I lost as much as when I used elixirs.

Oh, and I have about 120 R and SR cards left to level up, so don't think I will run out any time soon.

As of lately, the RNG hates me. (I spent FIVE e-gacha and got ZERO slayers! This has actually been the case the last few events ;_; ) But supposing the RNG did NOT hate me, a good tip is ALWAYS leave at LEAST 100 R-Wild and SR-Wild in your inventory. Getting a slayer card to level 100 doesn't matter for Shards because reasons, but in Gambit and EG, a level 100 slayer is significantly more useful than a level 1. How much would it suck to actually have the RNG gods smile upon you, grant you an SR Slayer card and then not be able to level it to 100 to get its max effect? That's kind of a waste if you ask me.

Also, if you're looking to max SED, level your Moe cards first. Anything that I get that's Moe, I immediately level to around 60. 60 is the peak for bang for buck on wildcards. You still get pretty good gains up until level 80 or so, but the gains will decrease a little with each level. After level 80, you don't get much at all for each level, and sometimes you get nothing going from 99 to 100.

By contrast, Sexy cards get all their SED boosting at the end. So if you have any Sexy cards sitting at 50 or higher, it's generally worth it to dump wilds on a Sexy card to level it to 100. This is especially important for EG. When EG rolls around, you want to maximize your base SED. I burn all of my wild cards (except for the aforementioned 100 in reserve) and apply them to whichever cards will get me the most gain per card. That means I level Low Level Moe > High Level Sexy > Any level Babe.

The other reason to stop leveling Moe cards at 60 or so is if you do much time in gacha or in explore mode, it's always nice to have spare levels to go. You only get +3 SED for every level above 100 for each card, whether it's an N, R, or SR. If you're going to be getting Chance time on explore mode or burning gacha tickets (of any variety) you may as well get some benefit out of the cards you draw. Ex levels eventually add up, but your average Moe SR will gain ~100 SED for every level up to 60 or so. Same thing for SR Sexy above 80. Strategic use of wild cards can be the difference between taking down a SEG in 1 hit and requiring 2, or the difference between 2 and 3 hits. And so on.