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    Drip Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post
    Why? The half hp means you and your friends get less EP, the flee means you all get fewer SEGs. Why use them? I can see a case where you use the flee one when you will be one shotting the EGs, but then you don't need the other one.
    Reminder, once you kill an (S)EG (whether your own or a shared one), you can encounter a new one. So the one EG you cause to flee could give one SEG and 3 more EGs to continue the encounters. So I do find both potions and elixirs to be of no use once your friend list starts getting properly populated.
    During phase two, I make all EGs that I can't oneshot with a single weak attack flee, and search further for an SEG instead. My main limitation is Focus, not Stamina, so I preserve my Focus for SEGs and generally have plenty stamina to find myself a new one.

    The half HP is because the past few events I was generally the "big hitter" within my friendslist. Big enough that I could often one-shot the spawns on my friendslist, but held off on that till the last 15 minutes to give other people a chance at getting a hit in.. There are players who deal way more damage than me, but sadly not in my friendslist.
    So, when an SEG is too big for me and those on my friendslist to take down without elaborate pudding consumption, I halve it into a more managable size, and save the pudding for other SEGs of managable size. I rather use 12 focus (my own focus + 1 pudding) to kill 2 SEGs with 55 million health each, than 1 SEG worth 110 million health.

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    - Elite Guard need a lot of pero if you don't have slayers (invest on elixir/sexual drinks).
    - For PVP events, you can spend on n gacha for card daily quest or Kurito (up to 30 min). Now shards is grinding focused as a second way to keep alive the event (liqueur is now a daily reward).
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Drip View Post
    During phase two, I make all EGs that I can't oneshot with a single weak attack flee, and search further for an SEG instead.
    Personal opinion, that's not the best use. One hit the EG, share it, and assume 4 people poke it before it dies. That means 4 people can now encounter another EG or SEG, no matter if they've already encountered one.
    If you encounter an EG, yet don't have enough focus, ignore it, and continue exploring. You can always get the 3 focus roll, thus get a focus back, and the EG will be there for 2 hours. Assuming there are enough people sharing EGs and SEGs, and you are poking everything, it shouldn't be unusual to have 8 EGs waiting to be poked and shared, 5 EGs someone shared with you that you poked and are waiting to die, and 2 SEGs being killed.
    Scaring the EGs into fleeing means less encounters in the long run.

    But as long as you get the amount of SEGs and EPs that you are aiming for, then it means your strategy is working for you, so all's well
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  4. #4
    Unregistered Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post

    Scaring the EGs into fleeing means less encounters in the long run.
    I disagree. The main constraint(resource-wise) on the number of SEG's you will seduce is focus. If you attack an EG, then that means the total sum of SEG's you can attack decreases by one.
    Stamina is abundant in the EG-event, and so is pero. Using it does not constrain the total amount of SEG's you can attack during the event.
    Therefore it makes more sense to use it to spawn new SEG's.

    The only time I see attacking EG's during phase 2 as valid is if focus is abundant, which would only happen if your pero/sta is constrained, or if you don't have enough active friends.

    As for halving HP:
    I always look through my friend list to see who is online and to calculate how much SED is available when I first spawn a SEG. If it falls well short then I halve it, otherwise I might be forced to try and land lots of extra attacks(waste focus) or to see it flee.
    Only someone with really high SED would say that it is a waste to use drinks. For low level players it can be a struggle and worry to get the SEG's you spawn to get seduced.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I disagree. The main constraint(resource-wise) on the number of SEG's you will seduce is focus. If you attack an EG, then that means the total sum of SEG's you can attack decreases by one.
    10 people are looking for SEGs. All 10 of those encounter an EG, then use an elixir. Once more, 10 people are looking for SEGs, with 10 possible encounters.
    10 other people have also encountered an EG each. 1 of them pokes and shares. 3 more people hit it, and now there are 9 EGs left untouched, and 4 people looking for SEGs.
    Yes, it does require you to spend a focus to poke something, thus you only poke if you have the stamina to spare. If you are going for the EP, you rarely do, but if you are going for eliminations, the single focus for an extra encounter chance may be better.

    But as I said before, if using elixir works for you, who am I to argue about it? I still think sharing the EGs give more SEGs in the long run, but can't say I've run the numbers for it.
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post

    But as I said before, if using elixir works for you, who am I to argue about it? I still think sharing the EGs give more SEGs in the long run, but can't say I've run the numbers for it.
    No need to run any numbers, the comparison wouldn't make much sense anyways since the two methods uses different kinds of 'fuel'.
    My point is that focus is to valuable to use for trying to spawn SEG's by attacking EG's.

    Last EG event I started using lots of elixirs near the end, and my spawn rate of SEG's went up drastically, while my money went down. I guess it's because I was spawning the bulk of SEG's in my friends circle at the time, but it's still a bit worrysome considering I only have about 300k now...

    While talking about the EG-event I just have to mention that I find it strange that the slayers you get during this event doesn't increase your rewards very much, considering you get most of it from poking SEG's, and a small poke doesn't mean smaller rewards. Perhaps they will throw in e-gacha tickets in the top-tier rankers like in this event. That would make it more interesting.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Crow View Post
    No need to run any numbers, the comparison wouldn't make much sense anyways since the two methods uses different kinds of 'fuel'.
    My point is that focus is to valuable to use for trying to spawn SEG's by attacking EG's.

    Last EG event I started using lots of elixirs near the end, and my spawn rate of SEG's went up drastically, while my money went down. I guess it's because I was spawning the bulk of SEG's in my friends circle at the time, but it's still a bit worrysome considering I only have about 300k now...

    While talking about the EG-event I just have to mention that I find it strange that the slayers you get during this event doesn't increase your rewards very much, considering you get most of it from poking SEG's, and a small poke doesn't mean smaller rewards. Perhaps they will throw in e-gacha tickets in the top-tier rankers like in this event. That would make it more interesting.
    Guessing you're relatively low level? After a certain point, Pero becomes all but meaningless. At any given time, I have anywhere from 7-10 million pero. There's nothing worthwhile to spend it on, so it just accumulates. Eventually, you'll be in the same boat.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by JSensei View Post
    Guessing you're relatively low level? After a certain point, Pero becomes all but meaningless. At any given time, I have anywhere from 7-10 million pero. There's nothing worthwhile to spend it on, so it just accumulates. Eventually, you'll be in the same boat.
    I figured that would happen eventually, but still have lots of cards left to level up. currently at 1.2M SED.

  9. #9
    Drip Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Only someone with really high SED would say that it is a waste to use drinks. For low level players it can be a struggle and worry to get the SEG's you spawn to get seduced.
    Every time you beat an EG you spawned, their avarage level goes up a little. During the last Elite Guard event, I encountered SEGs with both 1,000,000 health and SEGs with over 70,000,000 health right after eachother. 1,000,000 I can handle with a weak attack. 70,000,000 I couldn't even handle with a single full attack. I roughly categorized them in Double, Normal and Small sizes.
    So, eventually, especially if you kill every single EG, you'll run into SEGs which you just can't beat without pudding, halving or a friend with much more SED than yourself, no matter how high your own SED is.

    The trick that worked for me, was to have them level out just around the bracket where I could generally beat them, so where I can beat the Normal size with a full attack or 3-5 weak attacks, but needed a big hitter or halve its health for the Double Sized SEGs. Lacking the bigger hitter than myself in my friendslist, halving it had the same effect.
    Scaring normal EGS meant I could move onto the next SEG without raising the avarage level any further above my capacity.

    In the end, I'm generally happy if I make the top 300 rankings. Any higher than that is welcome, but not my aim.

  10. #10
    Unregistered Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Drip View Post
    During the last Elite Guard event, I encountered SEGs with both 1,000,000 health and SEGs with over 70,000,000 health right after eachother.
    how did you encounter SEGs with over 70 mil health? the max lvl was 60 in the last 2 EG events.

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