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    Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post

    Scaring the EGs into fleeing means less encounters in the long run.
    I disagree. The main constraint(resource-wise) on the number of SEG's you will seduce is focus. If you attack an EG, then that means the total sum of SEG's you can attack decreases by one.
    Stamina is abundant in the EG-event, and so is pero. Using it does not constrain the total amount of SEG's you can attack during the event.
    Therefore it makes more sense to use it to spawn new SEG's.

    The only time I see attacking EG's during phase 2 as valid is if focus is abundant, which would only happen if your pero/sta is constrained, or if you don't have enough active friends.

    As for halving HP:
    I always look through my friend list to see who is online and to calculate how much SED is available when I first spawn a SEG. If it falls well short then I halve it, otherwise I might be forced to try and land lots of extra attacks(waste focus) or to see it flee.
    Only someone with really high SED would say that it is a waste to use drinks. For low level players it can be a struggle and worry to get the SEG's you spawn to get seduced.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I disagree. The main constraint(resource-wise) on the number of SEG's you will seduce is focus. If you attack an EG, then that means the total sum of SEG's you can attack decreases by one.
    10 people are looking for SEGs. All 10 of those encounter an EG, then use an elixir. Once more, 10 people are looking for SEGs, with 10 possible encounters.
    10 other people have also encountered an EG each. 1 of them pokes and shares. 3 more people hit it, and now there are 9 EGs left untouched, and 4 people looking for SEGs.
    Yes, it does require you to spend a focus to poke something, thus you only poke if you have the stamina to spare. If you are going for the EP, you rarely do, but if you are going for eliminations, the single focus for an extra encounter chance may be better.

    But as I said before, if using elixir works for you, who am I to argue about it? I still think sharing the EGs give more SEGs in the long run, but can't say I've run the numbers for it.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post

    But as I said before, if using elixir works for you, who am I to argue about it? I still think sharing the EGs give more SEGs in the long run, but can't say I've run the numbers for it.
    No need to run any numbers, the comparison wouldn't make much sense anyways since the two methods uses different kinds of 'fuel'.
    My point is that focus is to valuable to use for trying to spawn SEG's by attacking EG's.

    Last EG event I started using lots of elixirs near the end, and my spawn rate of SEG's went up drastically, while my money went down. I guess it's because I was spawning the bulk of SEG's in my friends circle at the time, but it's still a bit worrysome considering I only have about 300k now...

    While talking about the EG-event I just have to mention that I find it strange that the slayers you get during this event doesn't increase your rewards very much, considering you get most of it from poking SEG's, and a small poke doesn't mean smaller rewards. Perhaps they will throw in e-gacha tickets in the top-tier rankers like in this event. That would make it more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Crow View Post
    No need to run any numbers, the comparison wouldn't make much sense anyways since the two methods uses different kinds of 'fuel'.
    My point is that focus is to valuable to use for trying to spawn SEG's by attacking EG's.

    Last EG event I started using lots of elixirs near the end, and my spawn rate of SEG's went up drastically, while my money went down. I guess it's because I was spawning the bulk of SEG's in my friends circle at the time, but it's still a bit worrysome considering I only have about 300k now...

    While talking about the EG-event I just have to mention that I find it strange that the slayers you get during this event doesn't increase your rewards very much, considering you get most of it from poking SEG's, and a small poke doesn't mean smaller rewards. Perhaps they will throw in e-gacha tickets in the top-tier rankers like in this event. That would make it more interesting.
    Guessing you're relatively low level? After a certain point, Pero becomes all but meaningless. At any given time, I have anywhere from 7-10 million pero. There's nothing worthwhile to spend it on, so it just accumulates. Eventually, you'll be in the same boat.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by JSensei View Post
    Guessing you're relatively low level? After a certain point, Pero becomes all but meaningless. At any given time, I have anywhere from 7-10 million pero. There's nothing worthwhile to spend it on, so it just accumulates. Eventually, you'll be in the same boat.
    I figured that would happen eventually, but still have lots of cards left to level up. currently at 1.2M SED.

  6. #6
    Drip Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Crow View Post
    I figured that would happen eventually, but still have lots of cards left to level up. currently at 1.2M SED.
    You shouldn't be too far away from that point then.

    I certainly didn't level up all my cards yet, but I'm at 1.475 mil SED now. Especially for the normal cards, I rarely use wildcards. Instead, when bored, I burn through a few hundred nGacha tickets from the big stacks I occasionally buy for Gambit. As a result, I now have normal cards with more than twice the Ex-level I have on my Shards deck. And it randomly leveled up a couple of R and SR cards along the way as well. With a bit of luck, I'll reach 1.5 mil SED before the EG event.

    Maybe I'll just feed all the N Wildcards I gathered during events and whatnot to Kurito sometime, for some candy. Or trade them up to R Wildcards or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drip View Post
    Instead, when bored, I burn through a few hundred nGacha tickets from the big stacks I occasionally buy for Gambit.
    a few hundred?? i get bored to death just going through 50 of them, and I have about 1100 of them now, but only had about 100 before gambit. Go figure where all my money went. Although, I don't think I lost as much as when I used elixirs.

    Oh, and I have about 120 R and SR cards left to level up, so don't think I will run out any time soon.

  8. #8
    Drip Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Only someone with really high SED would say that it is a waste to use drinks. For low level players it can be a struggle and worry to get the SEG's you spawn to get seduced.
    Every time you beat an EG you spawned, their avarage level goes up a little. During the last Elite Guard event, I encountered SEGs with both 1,000,000 health and SEGs with over 70,000,000 health right after eachother. 1,000,000 I can handle with a weak attack. 70,000,000 I couldn't even handle with a single full attack. I roughly categorized them in Double, Normal and Small sizes.
    So, eventually, especially if you kill every single EG, you'll run into SEGs which you just can't beat without pudding, halving or a friend with much more SED than yourself, no matter how high your own SED is.

    The trick that worked for me, was to have them level out just around the bracket where I could generally beat them, so where I can beat the Normal size with a full attack or 3-5 weak attacks, but needed a big hitter or halve its health for the Double Sized SEGs. Lacking the bigger hitter than myself in my friendslist, halving it had the same effect.
    Scaring normal EGS meant I could move onto the next SEG without raising the avarage level any further above my capacity.

    In the end, I'm generally happy if I make the top 300 rankings. Any higher than that is welcome, but not my aim.

  9. #9
    Unregistered Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Drip View Post
    During the last Elite Guard event, I encountered SEGs with both 1,000,000 health and SEGs with over 70,000,000 health right after eachother.
    how did you encounter SEGs with over 70 mil health? the max lvl was 60 in the last 2 EG events.

  10. #10
    Drip Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    how did you encounter SEGs with over 70 mil health? the max lvl was 60 in the last 2 EG events.
    Could've been 60 million, but still, my modified SED then was somewhere between 35 and 40 million, and I definitely couldn't beat them without pudding or halving or a higher SED friend the latter of which I didn't have at that time.
    But given the choice between using pudding (which is hard to get and could as well be used for another SEG) and an Elixer (which is easy to get for a few thousand Pero, which I have in abundance anyway), I picked, and will always pick the Elixer.

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