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    The problem come when people think this is a f2p where you can get all the stuff just playing a lot, and money only accelerates the process.

    Wrong, this is a f2p where you can get "most" stuff free, and a lot of frustration, cause you miss a lot of stuff. Even more unless you spent a lot of time here there are "free" stuff out of reach, for example OI reward to only 500 players.

    Here's how the game works, at the beginning you can get a lot of stuff, while the money barrier slowly approaching closer, until you crash with it, and then the free content grow so slowly meanwhile the pay content tempts you.

    You must choose if you want spend money or not. If you not then you know it can be frustrating, and if you want, you must choose where. I'm a miniatures collector, like WH40k, Kingdom Death, etc. And like in any hobby, I know I can't get all of what I want.

    About don't spend money on browser game, there are plenty of good H-games with amazing quality and content if you prefer spend money on not browser games.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    this is very possible to achieve. Have paying friends :P and send the SEG for them to kill. And im a Free player.
    and as a free player how do you intend to get the R slayers or the SR slayers? My OP is about the majority of the games content being locked behind a money vault. As for the 100 eliminations being possible for a F2P player, we will see, having P2W friends definitely helps but most high sed players only want to be friends with other high sed players. which severely limits the chances of being friends with them.

    Your post has almost nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make: Having 66% of the games content only being available to paying players is a problem. This is not just about this specific event.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armeris View Post
    The problem come when people think this is a f2p where you can get all the stuff just playing a lot, and money only accelerates the process.

    Wrong, this is a f2p where you can get "most" stuff free, and a lot of frustration, cause you miss a lot of stuff. Even more unless you spent a lot of time here there are "free" stuff out of reach, for example OI reward to only 500 players.

    Here's how the game works, at the beginning you can get a lot of stuff, while the money barrier slowly approaching closer, until you crash with it, and then the free content grow so slowly meanwhile the pay content tempts you.

    You must choose if you want spend money or not. If you not then you know it can be frustrating, and if you want, you must choose where. I'm a miniatures collector, like WH40k, Kingdom Death, etc. And like in any hobby, I know I can't get all of what I want.

    About don't spend money on browser game, there are plenty of good H-games with amazing quality and content if you prefer spend money on not browser games.
    Thank you for your post and for the most part you are right and there will be an inevitable wall that i hit that only money will be able to get around. but the point i was trying to make was that to much of the new content is behind that wall. i probably did not represent it in the best way cus i was much more irritated an hour ago but the main problem i am having is the amount of content that is sectioned off to P2W players. i have accepted that i will miss out on content because i can't/refuse to spend money. I just think that the amount of content that i am missing is extremely high right now. 66% of the content(excluding limited SR's because they are achieved in unique ways) is P2W only and i feel like that number should be closer to the 45%-50% range.

    on the part about spending money on browser games, I do not really have the income to buy ANY game atm. but come xmas time when i can breath a little i will try to save up and find an h-game or 2 that i like. thanks for the tip

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    you do realize there is a reward for defeating 200 SEG that gives you 3 Event Gacha tickets right? So try to find 40 or more per day and send it to strong friends to defeat them for you.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    you do realize there is a reward for defeating 200 SEG that gives you 3 Event Gacha tickets right? So try to find 40 or more per day and send it to strong friends to defeat them for you.
    you do realize that three event gacha tickets doesn't guarantee you anything right? look dude you disagree with my post which is fine but stop sending snarky remarks and comments that 1: do not have any merit, and 2: have nothing to do with the OP.

    this is the second post you have made now that has not offered anything to this discussion. you are just trying to make me look/feel dumb lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    this is very possible to achieve. Have paying friends :P and send the SEG for them to kill. And im a Free player.
    To do this you need a large number of elixir, you really want me to believe that you can find 100 SEG simply looking for? Please...
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    yes I am a lurker that is too lazy to register, but has anyone ever spent 300 stamina and not getting a guard ONCE??? I've been sitting on 6 focus for the past 40 minutes and I cannot find ONE single guard. Do I really have to burn stamina pots to just find ONE FREAKING GUARD?

    I mean I know to get ahead the want you to use items, but not even being able to find the boss to participate in the event is just silly.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    this is very possible to achieve. Have paying friends :P and send the SEG for them to kill. And im a Free player.
    It is possible, just not very plausible. Assuming you have a large pool of high SED friends that will kill all your SEGs, you would still have to encounter 10+ SEGs a day since you won't be doing any killing to get closer to that 100 mark. Getting to 100 is already hard enough, but now you're suggesting aiming for 200? (lol?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    yes I am a lurker that is too lazy to register, but has anyone ever spent 300 stamina and not getting a guard ONCE??? I've been sitting on 6 focus for the past 40 minutes and I cannot find ONE single guard. Do I really have to burn stamina pots to just find ONE FREAKING GUARD?

    I mean I know to get ahead the want you to use items, but not even being able to find the boss to participate in the event is just silly.
    I tend to find that sometimes you get a certain type of bug where you have to exit the search screen and reopen it to reset your boss status. There's a chance that doing so might help solve your issue.
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  9. #19
    For players there are 3 way to get the 100 points for the SR reward girl in this event:

    1) Do it like a Ninja. Ninja have high event SED (min 2M imo). You just wait until other players have reduced a lightning boss to under your SED and kill it with one big attack. If your SED is not high other Ninjas with higher SED will get the kill. This methode is not so usefull for free player because they dont have 5-10M SED like top P2P.

    2) If you have 5M Pero for elexirs and 100 stamina restore flask and a lot of high livel friends you can just summon lightning bosses for your friendd to kill. Problem not many player have 5M pero.

    3) Solo kill lightning bosses. If you use fx alt acounts you can summon bosses to you main account to kill. Problem lightning have on avarage 16M hp and if you get 2M in SED each boss cost you 7-8 full puddings. This methode if leagal takes tons of time and puddings. I dont think any F2P have 700-800 full puddings.

    For F2P to get 100 kills they have to mix all 3 methodes but still it is very hard.

    99,9% of free players should eigther:
    1) Give up getting 100 kills
    2) Spend the 200 $ to get all the slayers girls.

    Imo if you got under 2M event SED dont waist you items on trying to get 100 kills - you will not get them.

    Still this event is much easyer than last time they had this event. Last time players had to collect 150 kills now just 100 kills.

    I dont think any F2P players got the reward lightning girl in last event. In this event maybe 5 F2P players will get the the lightning girl. Maybe 50-200 P2P will also get lightning girl this time.

    I agree that the lightning girl is almost imposible to obtain for free players.

    I like the way the event is run on Japanees server much better.

    At Japan server all players who hit a lightning boss get a kill. So on Japan servers players Work together and

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    As much as i myself always have felt that slayers should be available to all, in SOME very rare form, i can really understand why they want to keep a fair few of them for paying players only. I would never have paid them anything if it wasn't due to unobtainable cards. If i could get them any other way i would damn right power through that way and then they would not have gotten any money at all.

    Paying players are what's keeping this game up, and they need an incentive to actually pay something. This game was P2W from the start, and as a free player you have to understand that not everything is available.

    I started out as a free player you know, clearing both first events at a very high rank purely since i was active, but after some random teasing from an event ticket that i got for free, i decided to buy some more, and have kept doing so every event.

    As a free player you WILL have to fight more for your things. Keep yourself high on pero so you can buy whatever comes out, try to get high SED friends that can help you out, and do events as much as possible to stack up on a ton of peronamin and pero puddings.

    And chillinfar, the casual payer is not having a bad time anymore, they are not resetting the event gacha every event now so you have time to slowly burn down the SR cards available in it. I used about 10 tickets this time in total to get all the SRs and Rs, and those tickets were all gained through the daily 100 pts ticket, it really comes in handy.

    So all in all, Nutaku, or rather the game devs, do not hate free players, they simply need to provide paying players an incentive, that is the problem with having a game that as a base is free to play.

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