For me the lag problem is a much bigger problem than the problem that PPS have a rewards Card only P2P can get.
I have accepted I can not get all girls as a free player - but to have to reconect for every 3 N-Gacha is not fun.
It is not funny eigther to loss final hit on a lightning boss 3 times just because of disconect problem

Ninja tactic is effective but I it is boring....

I like it better when players work together instead of Ninja style of play.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

As much as i myself always have felt that slayers should be available to all, in SOME very rare form, i can really understand why they want to keep a fair few of them for paying players only. I would never have paid them anything if it wasn't due to unobtainable cards. If i could get them any other way i would damn right power through that way and then they would not have gotten any money at all.

Paying players are what's keeping this game up, and they need an incentive to actually pay something. This game was P2W from the start, and as a free player you have to understand that not everything is available.

I started out as a free player you know, clearing both first events at a very high rank purely since i was active, but after some random teasing from an event ticket that i got for free, i decided to buy some more, and have kept doing so every event.

As a free player you WILL have to fight more for your things. Keep yourself high on pero so you can buy whatever comes out, try to get high SED friends that can help you out, and do events as much as possible to stack up on a ton of peronamin and pero puddings.

And chillinfar, the casual payer is not having a bad time anymore, they are not resetting the event gacha every event now so you have time to slowly burn down the SR cards available in it. I used about 10 tickets this time in total to get all the SRs and Rs, and those tickets were all gained through the daily 100 pts ticket, it really comes in handy.

So all in all, Nutaku, or rather the game devs, do not hate free players, they simply need to provide paying players an incentive, that is the problem with having a game that as a base is free to play.

PPS started fair when i enter the game (1st EG event), the P2F conversion started on 2nd EG event, removing intentionally some features from JP server (and the card issue).

The same on Perocolo. They could make money fairly without the need to cheat cards (1st perocolo had fat SED cards on e gacha, specially R ones).

I don't call PPS a P2W, because a lot of failures was shown on this server, even against paying players. I prefer to call it P2F instead (pay to fail).

Other issue is the high frequency as they are starting events instead to open stages and secondary events (these can be a jackpot without forcing to get special stuff, just with consumables). That means less chances for casuals to invest cash on certain event

Originally Posted by Tenhou

As much as i myself always have felt that slayers should be available to all, in SOME very rare form, i can really understand why they want to keep a fair few of them for paying players only. I would never have paid them anything if it wasn't due to unobtainable cards. If i could get them any other way i would damn right power through that way and then they would not have gotten any money at all.

Paying players are what's keeping this game up, and they need an incentive to actually pay something. This game was P2W from the start, and as a free player you have to understand that not everything is available.

I started out as a free player you know, clearing both first events at a very high rank purely since i was active, but after some random teasing from an event ticket that i got for free, i decided to buy some more, and have kept doing so every event.

As a free player you WILL have to fight more for your things. Keep yourself high on pero so you can buy whatever comes out, try to get high SED friends that can help you out, and do events as much as possible to stack up on a ton of peronamin and pero puddings.

And chillinfar, the casual payer is not having a bad time anymore, they are not resetting the event gacha every event now so you have time to slowly burn down the SR cards available in it. I used about 10 tickets this time in total to get all the SRs and Rs, and those tickets were all gained through the daily 100 pts ticket, it really comes in handy.

So all in all, Nutaku, or rather the game devs, do not hate free players, they simply need to provide paying players an incentive, that is the problem with having a game that as a base is free to play.

Thank you for your long and lengthy post. its cool to see you here since your one of the regular players that i notice a lot xD. And i do agree (to an extent) that paying players should have a bonus and an incentive to spend money. but that's not what my OP was about. My main problem with this game is the amount of card content that is P2W only. my issue is not necessarily about getting slayer power cards but about getting cards in general. Every event (at least the ones i have been apart of) has had 6 new cards added to the gacha but only 2 of them have be available to free players. This is just wrong imo the amount of content that is restricted to paying players is simply to high. I want to emphasize that i am only referring to collecting cards, not slayer cards. i could give a shit less about having a sed multiplier atm because even if i did i do not think my sed would be high enough to get the 100 kills for the SEG SR. I am mad because of the amount of content i can not get because i refuse/can not spend money on the game. I just want more card content available to the average joe because right now we only get on average 3 new cards a month where as paying players get 9.

I am not including the limited SED SR (the one for rank 1000 and higher) because there are only 1100 copies available and yes it is available to free players but it is obtained in a unique way and not everyone will get it. however if someone wanted to argue that f2p players have excess to 3 new cards this event, sure, it has some merit.

as for the game devs not hating us, i have to disagree. maybe they do not hate us if you are one of those "hate is a strong word" type of people but i definitely feel like they do not care about us because i have seen 3 or 4 different people post on here saying that on the Japanese version of the game, just hitting the lightning boss counted as a point. as I'm sure most of us know in our version you have to summon it or get the last hit. This is a change that only effects players on the low end of the totem pole. So if you spend lots of money, this change does not really matter because your sed is through the roof because you pay to play or (for a very small amount of players) you have been a f2p long enough that your sed is still really high. However, if you only spend a small amount of money or no money at all this exponentially reduces your chances of getting to that 100 kill cap. This is an obvious kick to the dick from the devs to everyone that is not spending money on there game.

but again, thank you for your reply. i did not thin anyone like you or Kotono would even glance at my post.

Ofcause PerpPero need to earn Money so players who spend Money should get an edge. I some time buy games but I very rary spend more than 100$ on a game. If any players have a full set of girls at Japan server they have spend tons of time and more than 10.000$ WTF !?!
If I spend 100$ on a game I expect to get a full game not just to get the slayer girls for one event that last 2 weeks!!!

To have 10 players pay 1000$ or to have 1000 players pay 10$ give same income but I refuse to be one of the 1000$ spenders.

If players could become member for say 20$ and members alwasy could buy E-Gacha at 100.000 Pero per ticket I think I would
spend 20$ to become a member.

I dont think PeroPero hate free players but they focus on Whales who spend a lot more than I am willing to spend on a FREE browser game.

How the people behind PeroPero want to price the game is up to them but if the Price is far too high I will just refuse to buy.

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I think only around 100 players will get the reward girl in this event. Most of those are P2P players ofcause. Even if all the 10000 players in PeroPero was P2P it would still just be the top 100 that got the reward. The event is just super hard unless you event SED is much higher then other players. Atm only 2-3% of the players kills the super bosses so they get many kills ofcause... Even thougth they mave made event much easyer than last time I still find it a bit too hard. I would like to see chance of summoning a super boss increased to say 25%. Just finding a super boss is too hard imo.
How to get 100 kills if if there are no super bosses to kill or they are kill within sekonds the top 50 players or you just cant play PeroPero due to lag...

Lag issues and pther bugs doesn't prove that scheme.

And the risk to do priority on whales is when whales stop to fund the game. As i pointed before, some non event features are not implemented but can be used to monetize and the short time between events doesn't help to think how to invest here.

I'm not sure how the 100 pts daily event gacha makes it focus whales that much more Opalia :P

It's been there every event for the last 3 ones and i keep stocking up on it. It's an amazing deal for anyone who pays only a little at a time.

And they tried solving the lag today but apparently they did not manage. It came back later on :<

that discount, was just one correct step, but the main issue still present on goals, nerfs (like lack of assists in EG events) and enviroment issues like last lag incident.

You know, a discussion like this won't end well as long as you feel the lag is an elaborate conspiracy against free players, it hits everyone just as hard. It's a problem on their end they have tried to fix and i hope they'll manage to fix it tomorrow or something. Don't use your puddings if you know it is lagging and they'll get wasted.

I can agree that not getting assists on SEGs is a silly move though, but that's about the only thing. I think EG is probably the one event type that really keeps being their weird test events. First event we had bugged guards, second event we had the whole slayer shizzle and this event we still don't get support counts on SEGs.

I was joking when i mentioned it in shoutbox. Yoshi explained other causes days ago (issues with AWS servers)

So, it seems worth mentioning now that they fixed it. Just plinking an SEG for one minimum will now get you a kill point. I'm betting most of you already know about it, but in case anyone does not, it is now much better.

Pretty sure I'm not hitting 100 this time anyways, still need something like 89 more SEGs. But makes it more promising for the future! (And also will be trying to make it, of course)