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  1. #11
    I found the previous Julia's thread healthier than this.

    P.S: If that was true, Nutaku should did it at 2nd Elite Guard or 3rd perocolo.
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  2. Do not bother reporting any of this stuff.
    This whole thing is based on pure speculation and is inflated to the point it is easy to prove wrong and it will not be taken seriously, specially by a company.
    Also keep in mind that sharing accounts, multiboxing or even using ingame macro's is not against their ToS.

    That being said, if you dont like someone or feel like someone is impairing your ability to play or enjoy the game, remove or block them. That is perfectly fine.
    Just try to be civil about it and present your opinion calmly and rationally if you want to be taken seriously.

  3. #13
    You're wrong in only one point, macros are against ToS, see point 3 (User Conduct)

    use any robot, spider, scraper, or other automated means to access the Website for any purpose;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomaa View Post
    using ingame macro's
    WHAT?? Are you saying macro's are pre-installed in the game itself by the devs, and they are not a side software executed, like auto mouse clicker or something???
    Well, then, and if it's not something against their ToS, i'd like to know a macro to roll the goddamn Ngacha on it's own, bacause i hate spending time on rolling it for like 50 times every day, sinche there is no "roll x10" button here like it is in LoV, for example, and getting those SR cards from it is a brainer... =_=" (this will also not impair anything, so i don't count this as "cheating" against anyone)
    Also, what is "multiboxing"? I've never herad such a term before...
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by chillinfar View Post
    You're wrong in only one point, macros are against ToS, see point 3 (User Conduct)
    thats not what it means

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic47 View Post
    WHAT?? Are you saying macro's are pre-installed in the game itself by the devs, and they are not a side software executed, like auto mouse clicker or something???
    Well, then, and if it's not something against their ToS, i'd like to know a macro to roll the goddamn Ngacha on it's own, bacause i hate spending time on rolling it for like 50 times every day, sinche there is no "roll x10" button here like it is in LoV, for example, and getting those SR cards from it is a brainer... =_=" (this will also not impair anything, so i don't count this as "cheating" against anyone)
    Also, what is "multiboxing"? I've never herad such a term before...
    multiboxing is playing on 2 separate accounts at the same time

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    The automated thingie does not necessarily mean macros or clickbots. It means a program that understands the game and sends the game commands for you. A clickbot only repeats a click you already did, that is why Tomaa suggests it is not against the ToS. It's not automating the GAME it's automating the COMPUTER and thus does not cause any changes in the game. An opposite form of this would be to make a program that understands the games commands and gives the games commands on its own. A clickbot does not understand anything, it just repeats something you already did to infinity.

    At least that's what i've understood. Don't sue if i'm wrong :P

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    The automated thingie does not necessarily mean macros or clickbots. It means a program that understands the game and sends the game commands for you. A clickbot only repeats a click you already did, that is why Tomaa suggests it is not against the ToS. It's not automating the GAME it's automating the COMPUTER and thus does not cause any changes in the game. An opposite form of this would be to make a program that understands the games commands and gives the games commands on its own. A clickbot does not understand anything, it just repeats something you already did to infinity.

    At least that's what i've understood. Don't sue if i'm wrong :P
    What you have in mind is called a bot. That is not covered by their ToS as well, but I never even heard about such bot.
    Macro itself is an automated action, but its not accessing the website itself.
    What that line refers to is web server access using automated tasks like crawling, bruteforcing, etc. It is standard line in ToS and its purpose is mainly to prevent unintentional DDoS and to stop people poking around out of curiosity.

    That being said, I dont endorse using macros. ToS can change any time, and in theory, they can ban anyone for any reason.

  8. #18
    I must admit that I actually thought that they were referring to macros when someone qouted that line on this forum, but your explanations makes a lot of sense.
    Besides, it seems very unlikely that Nutaku would bother to hire a person just to track down a few macro users, while only a few hunderd players are actually spending money on this game.

    Well I am not a computer genius at all, so you guys wont have to worry that I will start using a program like that in the future

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    Well what that paragraph means, is a program that itself makes/forces access to the game code to get info/to change parameters that normal players shouldn't have access to.
    A clickbot doesn't do that, it's just recorded the clicks of the mouse and repeats them that means it doesn't affect the game code at all and as such doesn't go against the rules.
    Yeah it's not nice, but such things are in most games not covered, because there is no possible way for a developer/publisher to prove sth like that if it doesn't affect the game code directly.

  10. #20
    How is a an autoclicker not an automated means of accessing the site?

    Edit:
    Also it Doesn't matter anyways because the people who are cheating have spent thousands on their accounts and Nutaku wont ban those people. Pretty sure nothing happened to the people who cheated on the first coliseum event.
    Last edited by nip101; 12-08-2015 at 05:54 PM.

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