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  1. Quote Originally Posted by JSensei View Post
    I wonder what the actual mechanism is. All three that I described essentially yield the same result, just via three different paths. The third one sound the easiest to code though. X points = tier.

    Throw in another random number generator to get the wait time for that tier.

    Then use a third RNG for the item(s) that you get. Every combination of items available for a certain point value just need a discrete value or range of values. Spin the RNG and get whatever it lands on. Seems pretty simple to me.
    It is:

    For R1(reward tier) =I1(item)+I2+i3+i4
    For R1 set T(time)(rng =100%,=200%,=300%)
    Count T
    Present R2 (rng x1I, x2I x3I, (rng itemset)

    Not much different then that...Of course you set ranges on the rng and such but once coded the snippets can be recycled as needed.
    Its how they code the gatchas and reward boxes... code once then just plug in the appropriate values for the variables.
    Last edited by Big Fat Troll; 02-18-2016 at 10:18 PM.


  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I know that.

    That's why I asked for combinations others got the N from as my usual r gacha spam hasn't done the trick so far. Unfortunately throwing even more stuff at Kurito isn't the way I want to go either. So to rephrase the question then, what's the lowest amount of points people had to throw at Kurito for the N card so far?
    Cool. Because a lot of other people are backing their info with data. Oh wait, Just kidding.

    I provided a method that gives you approximately a 25% rate of getting the N card based on 13 attempts, which admittedly, is not very much - but it is a much more concrete data than anyone else has provided other than a loosely translated "LOL I GOT LUCKY" or "HEY I IMAGINE THAT WHAT TIME YOU DO IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE". I have tracked 215 gifts to Kurito and that is the most efficient way to get it that I've tracked so far.

    Sorry you don't want to "throw more stuff at Kurito". I've also gotten the Limited N card from single R gacha tickets and from 3 R gacha ticket combos, but the rate of getting limited N cards from either of those combos is not as efficient as what I shared. If you want to know the lowest value that I've gifted to Kurito for a limited N card it is 1 pero pudding, but I wouldn't bank on that being a good bet unless you're feeling lucky.

    If someone can provide some content of "i fed Kurito x, y times, and received z" that exhibits a better success rate, I urge you to use that.

    Hope you get your cards.
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  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Nutakum View Post
    Cool. Because a lot of other people are backing their info with data. Oh wait, Just kidding.

    I provided a method that gives you approximately a 25% rate of getting the N card based on 13 attempts, which admittedly, is not very much - but it is a much more concrete data than anyone else has provided other than a loosely translated "LOL I GOT LUCKY" or "HEY I IMAGINE THAT WHAT TIME YOU DO IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE". I have tracked 215 gifts to Kurito and that is the most efficient way to get it that I've tracked so far.

    Sorry you don't want to "throw more stuff at Kurito". I've also gotten the Limited N card from single R gacha tickets and from 3 R gacha ticket combos, but the rate of getting limited N cards from either of those combos is not as efficient as what I shared. If you want to know the lowest value that I've gifted to Kurito for a limited N card it is 1 pero pudding, but I wouldn't bank on that being a good bet unless you're feeling lucky.

    If someone can provide some content of "i fed Kurito x, y times, and received z" that exhibits a better success rate, I urge you to use that.

    Hope you get your cards.
    Wait... people actually have data to back up their claims?!?

    Holy shit. Gotta admit though, you have one of the most convincing arguments I've seen. It's possible you got lucky and got a higher rate than 'normal' but it's hard to argue with someone that actually recorded stuff. After all, that WAS the point of this thread. It's not just to be for "I fed her an R-Gacha and got all three cards and an SR5, lol. First try, too"

    Have you tracked any stats for the other two cards? I'd be curious what your findings were for the SR card or the R card for that matter, even though I have several copies of her.

  4. #54
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    How i gotten the three cards

    Since some of you are still having a hard time finding the three Kurito cards, how about i'll try to share how i got mine

    N card is from feeding her pero burger half ( 3rd attempt) - idk if i was lucky with this one..oh well

    R card is from feeding her R gacha though i use 3 rare gacha as finding for the SR - gotten her 3 times ( 2x from 3R) , another from R gacha and SR wild card 1


    SR card is from feeding her with 3 rare gacha as well - 30th attempt

    timer was 2 hrs flat


    Thats how i got them all

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Since some of you are still having a hard time finding the three Kurito cards, how about i'll try to share how i got mine

    N card is from feeding her pero burger half ( 3rd attempt) - idk if i was lucky with this one..oh well

    R card is from feeding her R gacha though i use 3 rare gacha as finding for the SR - gotten her 3 times ( 2x from 3R) , another from R gacha and SR wild card 1


    SR card is from feeding her with 3 rare gacha as well - 30th attempt

    timer was 2 hrs flat


    Thats how i got them all
    I wonder what the rate is for 3 R-Gacha vs 1. I only had a little over 100 R-Gachas before this event. I fed her 3 R-gachas, and my prize was a single R-gacha. Naturally, I was a little pissed.

    I tried it again. 3 more R-gachas, and the fucking rat gave me an R-gacha as a prize for the second time in a row. If I was a little pissed the first time, I was RAGING the second time.

    I said fuck that shit, and I started feeding her a single R gacha with up to 10 candies, provided I had them. I must have fed her around 40 or so, and I got zero SRs. I did, however, get the R card a few times.

    In the end, I decided it was more worth it to save my R-gachas for updates to the actual gacha. With 50 or so R-gachas left, I got 2 of the 3 limited SRs and one of the new permanent additions.

    I know a lot of us are completionists and want ALL available cards, but it can become frustrating, especially if you are a F2P. You can burn R-gachas all day long and get nothing but SR3s +/- an R Wild. Granted, SR3s are pretty useful, but I'd rather have the SR.

    On the other hand, when nutaku does limited events like Valentine's gacha, you can get pinched by not having any R-gachas left because you fed them all to the rat.

    I don't know the approximate drop rates of the limited valentine's day cards, but with enough card reveals (which aren't that hard to get and stock up on, even as a F2P) 90 R-Gachas (the number you spent to get the SR) will all but assuredly net you 2, maybe 3 Limited SRs PLUS a chance at any newly added permanent SRs.

    With this in mind, we need to find something else to feed her that yields SR cards with at least some decent rate.

    I know I tried 10 namins + 10 half namins + 4 R-gacha (the cheapest I could get to get a gold button) and two attempts at that failed to do anything except deplete my stock of namins. Honestly, I don't really care much about namins because after a certain point, you have enough stamina that you may not want to go through 80 bajillion spins. I know I found myself balancing between my tolerance to do spins and my desire to get trophies during the last gambit. I have a high tolerance for spins at the bonus stage where each spin is instant, but I don't have the patience when the act of spinning can take a while.

    With the EG event, I'm slowly rebuilding my stash of namins, and I'm getting tons of SR wilds of all types. I'm open to burning namins and/or SR Wilds if there's a decent chance I can get the SR. I'm most definitely open to burning pretty much anything else aside from maybe glasses. The most recent Gambit had plenty of glasses in silver and gold cases, but the drop rate for the one before that was super low. That event also had (to my perception) a lower drop rate for gold keys, so I didn't get to open very many gold boxes and none that I did open had glasses.

    I assume that the prior gambit was a failed experiment and Nutaku isn't going to do that again, but I'm not willing to risk it until I see the next gambit has an abundant supply of glasses.

  6. RNGeezus hates people who want everything RIGHT NOW. I know cause when I was just casually tossing an R-gatcha at the squirrel once in awhile back in Dec. I got all three of her cards without trying.... then when they switched the new ones in,NOTHING!!! 250 tries later all I have is the N and R cards. I think they may have tweeked the numbers a bit. Nutaku seems to be on edge that F2P are getting rewards without paying. but then again I'm feeling trollish about it.

  7. #57
    I just use 2 R Tickets for N and R Cards. Then I use 3 for the SR Card. Still no SR yet doe.
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  8. #58
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    Judging from the single R-gachas I've thrown at Kurito the odds for the SR aren't more than a few percent. Never tried 3 R-gachas, so can't judge myself, but looking at some of the posts here it doesn't seem like the odds are that much better relative to the amount of R-gachas you use.

    Interesting find on the burger halves though. Don't have any currently, but with the coliseum coming up I should have plenty of shake/burger halves to spare, guess I'll give those a shot for the N card.

  9. #59
    Each Card you donate is worth some Material Points.

    Players have to done a at least of 490? points to have a chance to get a limmed girl.
    1x R-Gacha is 550 points and have around 1-2% of giving the N-Gacha.
    3x R-Gacha is 1650 points and have around 2-3% of giving the N-Gacha.

    Materials Material Points
    Pero Coliseum Ticket 2
    Candy 2
    Pink Key 2
    N Wild Card 1 4
    Gacha Ticket 4
    R Wild Card 1 10
    Elixir 10
    Sexual Energy Drink 20
    SR Wild Card 1 35
    SR Wild Card 3 55
    PeroPero Radar 80
    Peronamin Half 130
    Pero Pudding Half 130
    SR Wild Card 5 210
    Silver key 210
    PeroPero Glasses 550
    Peronamin 550
    Gold key 600
    R Gacha Ticket 650
    Pero Pudding 650
    Card Reveal 1100
    EX Wild Card 1400
    Event Gacha ticket 1400

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Opalia24 View Post
    Each Card you donate is worth some Material Points.

    Players have to done a at least of 490? points to have a chance to get a limmed girl.
    1x R-Gacha is 550 points and have around 1-2% of giving the N-Gacha.
    3x R-Gacha is 1650 points and have around 2-3% of giving the N-Gacha.

    Materials Material Points
    Pero Coliseum Ticket 2
    Candy 2
    Pink Key 2
    N Wild Card 1 4
    Gacha Ticket 4
    R Wild Card 1 10
    Elixir 10
    Sexual Energy Drink 20
    SR Wild Card 1 35
    SR Wild Card 3 55
    PeroPero Radar 80
    Peronamin Half 130
    Pero Pudding Half 130
    SR Wild Card 5 210
    Silver key 210
    PeroPero Glasses 550
    Peronamin 550
    Gold key 600
    R Gacha Ticket 650
    Pero Pudding 650
    Card Reveal 1100
    EX Wild Card 1400
    Event Gacha ticket 1400
    You are definitely correct about the material points. From where are you getting your drop rate percentages? Does anyone else actually have data where they tracked the offering, the time away, and the reward?

    If we're just guessing at drop rates, then we don't get any closer to figuring it out. I know it is theoretically possible to get the SR with an R-gacha, but has anyone gotten it multiple times with the same offering?

    Has anyone gotten it multiple times with different offerings? The wiki shows that the SR card is a possible reward for many of the reward tiers above 450 material points. Do higher tiers have significantly higher (or lower) drop rates? I know nothing is guaranteed, but if people tracked their offerings, we might get a better picture at the actual drop rates of the individual rewards.

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