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  1. If I had unlimited R-gatcha I would do said tracking. But since I am FTP I just go by my limited sample. And yes I have gotten multiple N-R-SR cards from the squirrel for 1 R-gatcha at a time. Just the SR dropped fewer times then the other 2 for me. but as I said starting with the last switch in cards I still haven't gotten the SR. My thought is that with 1 R-gatcha the drop rate is about 3% on a card versus a consumable. And as we all know RNG is just that, random as fuck and aggrevating as hell when we do not get what we want!
    Just because the drop chance is 1% that still doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to drop in 100 tries...
    Last edited by Big Fat Troll; 02-19-2016 at 01:00 PM.


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    The biggest reason one R ticket at a time is a good choice is because you do not use a bunch of expensive things at once and get crap rewards. Most of the time with an R ticket you get an SR3 + R wild card, which is a really nice trade-off while you wait for those limited cards.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    The biggest reason one R ticket at a time is a good choice is because you do not use a bunch of expensive things at once and get crap rewards. Most of the time with an R ticket you get an SR3 + R wild card, which is a really nice trade-off while you wait for those limited cards.
    Single R-gachas are certainly an attractive option. It gets iffy whether they are worth it since your probability of getting a limited SR can be higher if you actually spin the R-gacha than by feeding it to Kurito, but we also have very little solid knowledge of relative drop rates for higher tiers.

    Hypothetically speaking, would you be willing to spend 5 R-Gachas if you knew that it increased the drop rate by ten times? The wiki tells us what you can get from every combined point value, but we don't know what the drop rate for items at that level. I assumed that if you got to 10,500 points, (there are only three rewards listed for that) that you would have roughly 1 in 3 odds. I never considered the fact that despite having only three possible items as rewards that the percentages could be something like:

    SR Card: 10%
    Pero Pudding x 2: 15%
    Card Reveal x 2: 40%
    Card Reveal x 2 + Pero Pudding x 2: 35%

    Those numbers are COMPLETELY fabricated, but they illustrate my point. I did two Kurito attempts for 10,500 points each and got CR x 2 + Pero Pudding x 2 +/- 50 candies both times. If I could afford to do a bunch of 10,500 point offerings, I'd love to see if I get something else. Otherwise, we don't really know if the odds for each reward are roughly equivalent or if some rewards are more heavily weighted than others.

    Experience at the 1 R-Gacha level indicates that the rewards are not evenly divided among the possibilities. More often than not, an offering of an R-Gacha ticket yields a SR3 +/- (more often plus than minus) an R Wild +/- some number of candies. I've gotten only an SR3 and nothing else, but ~75% of my R-gacha offerings yield SR3 + R Wild with or without candies.

    Are other people getting a similar rate of return?

  4. #64
    Gift from Kiruto works this way: First computer pick basket and scondly an item from that basket is picked.
    This baskes also have different waiting times.
    There are the following baskets:
    1) 5 min
    2) 10 min
    3) 20 min
    4) 30 min
    5) 40 min
    6) 50 min
    7) 60 min
    8) 1:30 hours
    9) 2:00 hours
    10) 2:30 hours
    11) 3:00 hours
    12) 3:30 hours
    13) 4:00 hours
    14) 4:30 hours
    15) 5:00 hours

    If players donate 490 (1x R-Gacha) points thay get are garantied to draw from 50 min basket but if they are lucky they can draw from a better basket. Like wise if thet donat 1500 points they are garantied 1:30 basket but with lucky they can draw from better basket.
    It is pritty rarely players get to draw from a basket better than minimum garantied basket, only 5-10% chance.
    So donation more points garanti drawing from better basket

    All gift you offers are converted into points.

    The gift a player gets back on average is worth less than half the points offered.
    Last edited by Opalia24; 02-20-2016 at 01:03 AM.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Opalia24 View Post
    Gift from Kiruto works this way: First computer pick basket and scondly an item from that basket is picked.
    This baskes also have different waiting times.
    There are the following baskets:
    1) 5 min
    2) 10 min
    3) 20 min
    4) 30 min
    5) 40 min
    6) 50 min
    7) 60 min
    8) 1:30 hours
    9) 2:00 hours
    10) 2:30 hours
    11) 3:00 hours
    12) 3:30 hours
    13) 4:00 hours
    14) 4:30 hours
    15) 5:00 hours

    If players donate 490 (1x R-Gacha) points thay get are garantied to draw from 50 min basket but if they are lucky they can draw from a better basket. Like wise if thet donat 1500 points they are garantied 1:30 basket but with lucky they can draw from better basket.
    It is pritty rarely players get to draw from a basket better than minimum garantied basket, only 5-10% chance.
    So donation more points garanti drawing from better basket

    All gift you offers are converted into points.
    Right. This is known and is on the wiki.

    The question isn't how to get the better basket. Most people already know how to get to the baskets, and if they need, the wiki can fill in the details.

    The question is: what are the odds that the thing in the basket is what you draw? People make up numbers. That isn't the point of this thread.

    If someone has had experience using a certain method and got a specific card (N, R, or SR) the questions are these:

    1) What did you feed her.
    2) How many tries until you got the reward you were looking for
    3) How many times have you gotten the reward total.

    I feel like we should be able to crowd source some of the statistics behind the baskets. We just need to work together.

  6. #66
    Would be impossible to determine. Since i needed like 150 tickets or so ( using only +1 r gacha, or 1 peronamin at a time ) to get the SR first time, and then tenhou got her's in first ticket, then another in few tickets later.
    Later that day in few tickets i got it again too.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neko View Post
    Would be impossible to determine. Since i needed like 150 tickets or so ( using only +1 r gacha, or 1 peronamin at a time ) to get the SR first time, and then tenhou got her's in first ticket, then another in few tickets later.
    Later that day in few tickets i got it again too.
    How would it be impossible to determine? All you'd need is a couple people that throw a beforehand specified amount of consumables at Kurito, track all the rewards and then you add it all up and you could have a somewhat accurate display of the odds.

    Now in the middle of this Kurito season most people probably won't be all too keen on spending all their R-gachas on Kurito, but if you could get a bunch of people to track this at the start of the next Kurito season where they'll be giving her lots of stuff for the new cards anyway I don't see why it couldn't work.

  8. #68
    yush real acurate when u got a 0,75 % or whatever with a 100 % and 2 20, or 30 %. It's just a matter of luck and a pointless task.
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    How would it be impossible to determine? All you'd need is a couple people that throw a beforehand specified amount of consumables at Kurito, track all the rewards and then you add it all up and you could have a somewhat accurate display of the odds.

    Now in the middle of this Kurito season most people probably won't be all too keen on spending all their R-gachas on Kurito, but if you could get a bunch of people to track this at the start of the next Kurito season where they'll be giving her lots of stuff for the new cards anyway I don't see why it couldn't work.
    Bingo.

    Yes, I realize you can get the SR on the first ticket. You can get it on the 200th ticket. Or you can get it somewhere in between.

    The idea is if you get enough data in aggregate, you can start to determine accurate drop percentages. I fed her a BUNCH of r-gachas and got zero SRs. Based on my data, the drop rate is zero. This is clearly not the case. But if you pool data, you will (hopefully) see patterns arise, like relative drop percentages of the other rewards too.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by JSensei View Post
    If someone has had experience using a certain method and got a specific card (N, R, or SR) the questions are these:

    1) What did you feed her.
    2) How many tries until you got the reward you were looking for
    3) How many times have you gotten the reward total.
    Actually, knowing the wait time is significantly more important. As i've noted in previous posts, I've never gotten the SR from anything less than 2hr30min. It is possible to get 2hr30min wait time from a single R Gacha ticket, but that would be (i guess what we could call) a "step-up" for the kurito basket. The vast majority of the time you put 1 R Gacha in you will get a 50min wait time.

    Knowing the statistics on the drop rates for each wait-time gives you a target, then if you think you can beat the odds or that it is more efficient to hope for a "step-up" you can evaluate from there.
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