I have read this thread a lot when new posts show up. This is what I think.... JUST DEAL WITH RNG! Nutaku will not divulge numbers at any time. They may say "approximately", "above or below average", "I can't tell you" or some other statement to that effect. Unless you, yes YOU personally do your own tracking this thread is meaningless. I have tracked all the gifts I have given the rat and still know only this...

1 R-gatcha = best return on investment

Anything else = a waste of time.

The damn cards will drop when they drop.

Just because the drop chance is 10% (for example) does not mean a guaranteed drop in 100 tries. You could be that unfortunate asshole who spend 1000 tickets and only win once. Each spin is not conditional on the roll before or after it. ... trust me I miss 99.99% of the shit I want while I see others saying, "oh yeah every time I roll I win"..... Its RNG, just know that all 3 rarities of cards do drop from a single gift of an R-gatcha ticket. Eventually.

Originally Posted by Big Fat Troll

I have read this thread a lot when new posts show up. This is what I think.... JUST DEAL WITH RNG! Nutaku will not divulge numbers at any time. They may say "approximately", "above or below average", "I can't tell you" or some other statement to that effect. Unless you, yes YOU personally do your own tracking this thread is meaningless. I have tracked all the gifts I have given the rat and still know only this...

1 R-gatcha = best return on investment



Anything else = a waste of time.

The damn cards will drop when they drop.

Just because the drop chance is 10% (for example) does not mean a guaranteed drop in 100 tries. You could be that unfortunate asshole who spend 1000 tickets and only win once. Each spin is not conditional on the roll before or after it. ... trust me I miss 99.99% of the shit I want while I see others saying, "oh yeah every time I roll I win"..... Its RNG, just know that all 3 rarities of cards do drop from a single gift of an R-gatcha ticket. Eventually.

I definitely agree that R-gacha is the best return on investment, but I'm pretty low on R-gacha tickets. I picked up a TON of Ex Wilds, and I don't really care if I have to spend a bunch to get it. I know it's an RNG, but if higher tier offerings have a good probability, I'm totally up for blowing a bunch of Ex Wilds to get it. Best I can figure, r-gacha drops the SR card somewhere between 1 and 2 percent of the time.

I also realize that Nutaku isn't going to give us numbers, which is why we need to collaborate to track it ourselves. A community run google spreadsheet would allow us to track offerings and rewards collectively to try to hone in on the true rates. With enough data, you can tease out what the approximate drop rate is so you can get an idea of what you're likely to get for your investment.

You are also correct that you can have a 10% chance and still miss it 100 times, but that's statistically unlikely.

The truth is, very few people have tracked what they gave and what they got, so most people simply make up numbers. "Oh, it's 4% for this." "Oh, it's 2% for that"

Of those that HAVE tracked, the only real offering that people have tracked at all is single R-Gacha. What are the odds for offerings in the point range of 3000-15000? No one really knows. I know I had 2 offerings of exactly 10,050 points and got no SR (I did, however get CRs and puddings).

Screw it. I've been suggesting we do it, so I'm just going to do it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

We can do this.