We'll be able to catch up later on. As long as the other events roll out well, we'll be able to stockpile enough items to keep pace with the big spenders.

being in top 10 myself I can tell you seagul spent atleast ~1.5k$ atleast at this point, probably more lol. Card revleals/Event tickets/Donation for kurito/Event puddings It does not come cheap. Look at peoples' SED, i've donated shitton of puddings and other shit to the squirel to level up my cards and my SED isn't even that big 200k+, anybody with similar sed donated ~100$ to kurito at this point or cheated on the event with alt accounts and farmed elimination awards. Some have done both lol.

That's some scary insight on in-app purchases there

The little 1/day pudding sets are a fair deal for a little boost. I started picking up the 10g/pudding and 100g/3 pudding deals a bit before the event started and mostly throughout it. Definitely given me more worth than all the 300g event tickets I handed over

Quite interesting info being shown here, both mathematical and statistical.

Most likely PPS has some high-payers, and I as a F2P player don't have anything against that. I mean, it's their choice, and they help to keep to game alive.
Also, at this point, their cash spendings don't really mean a problem for us F2P guys. It's not like games when your set of whatever (units, resources, cards, etc) goes straight against another player's, with the result of resources being taken from the player who lost (as happens in other games).
I do believe though, when the PVP-style event comes up, then those spenders could cause some uproar 'cause they'll likely become unbeatable. But still, that should affect only our rankings, and nothing more.
I actually think that PPS protects the F2P players quite fairly, compared to other games.

During this event, for example, what got most of us stuck on lower rankings wasn't exactly due to those cash-spenders being at the top ranks, it was the goddamm 8.7m guards issue. Cash-spending gave them the possibility of beat that wall and get better results, I agree, but it's somehow predictable to happen.

I agree with [MENTION=67]Skulkraken[/MENTION] when he says that we'll be able to catch up later on.

I am in full agreement with Danex that PPS treats F2P people fairly. Far more so than with most games.

I'm also in agreement with Skulkraken. We will catch up with the big spenders in about a month or two..depending on how each of us plays. The amount of time, lucky draws, etc. It will be very hard to be #1 in any rankings without spending money, but things will be far more competitive in later events.

The only issue I see is perhaps with PVP events like Danex mentioned, but there will only be like 20 people at most that will be truly 'unbeatable'...probably.

Now, for something totally off topic, but I suppose I'll toss out an educated guess....with the new Nutaku game that is going to be released, I foresee 'spending money' making a far bigger difference. For those who are willing to spend money like that on a game I would suggest holding on to your cash until then; however, I do deeply thank anyone who supports PPS..and any Nutaku game really. ♥

We'll definitely sometime catch up in SED and similar, that is for sure (minus payer-exclusive cards) but we'll never be able to compete for the top spot vs payers since they'll just buy tons of items to continue doing their thing. Not that we really need to, though, who the heck cares about ranking? Well aside from a select few.

Other than that i do have to agree that freemium players are treaded quite fairly. I'd still love for us to be able to get the exclusive cards SOMEHOW, like i said in another thread about making them have a chance to appear in "guaranteed SR" gachas, but i can understand if they want to keep some of the cards for paying players only.

That said, 1,5k$? Sheesh, i would never do that. But thanks anyways to those who do because it gives nutaku more money to keep DMM happier!

Other then what's been said, about the top, let's say 100 spots (Because I think a good majority of us are in the top 200-1000 which is decent) are claimed by people who either are just WAY too competitive, or in a positive light want to support Nutaku, like Tenhou said F2P players will catch up in SED, it'll just take longer. Which makes it more fun right? Honestly I'm frustrated at how easy it is for people to rank high and benefit from it just by spending that amount of money on the game. Because instead of getting less help, YOU GET MORE FOR IT. I bet the most spendy on this game is rank 1 and he gets an even trade off it looks like for what was spent. Sucks but I'll have to deal with it whether I want to or not. At first I used to think this game was like any other micro transaction game where the P2W players benefit so highly on buying from the game which gives us F2P players a harder time. But as you guys mentioned about Nutaku treating F2P players evenly, I was clearly wrong on that, and looking at the rankings, again I'm happy that most of us did great. I actually thought even our best players wouldn't survive with these guys but they did (assuming most of them are F2P) and most of us didn't even have to spend anything or invest much time.

I'm still upset that these guys get event cards, get higher rankings, and make competing with them impossible, but at least we can still achieve decent rankings without spending a cent.

I'm also worried about the next event. It kind of seems like only the top 100, (Majority that is) are Pay 2 win, from what I've seen. Hopefully it doesn't increase to the point where F2P players like myself are completely shut out of the 1-1000s...

Originally Posted by ShadowMiku

Other then what's been said, about the top, let's say 100 spots (Because I think a good majority of us are in the top 200-1000 which is decent) are claimed by people who either are just WAY too competitive, or in a positive light want to support Nutaku, like Tenhou said F2P players will catch up in SED, it'll just take longer. Which makes it more fun right? Honestly I'm frustrated at how easy it is for people to rank high and benefit from it just by spending that amount of money on the game. Because instead of getting less help, YOU GET MORE FOR IT. I bet the most spendy on this game is rank 1 and he gets an even trade off it looks like for what was spent. Sucks but I'll have to deal with it whether I want to or not. At first I used to think this game was like any other micro transaction game where the P2W players benefit so highly on buying from the game which gives us F2P players a harder time. I was clearly wrong on that, looking at the rankings. I actually thought even our best players wouldn't survive with these guys but they did (assuming most of them are F2P) and most of us didn't even have to spend anything or invest much time.

I'm still upset that these guys get event cards, get higher rankings, and make competing with them impossible, but at least we can still achieve decent rankings without spending a cent.

I'm also worried about the next event. It kind of seems like only the top 100, (Majority that is) are Pay 2 win, from what I've seen. Hopefully it doesn't increase to the point where F2P players like myself are completely shut out of the 1-1000s...

Hey, I resent that, alot. The idea that downright non-paying players should get the same power and assistance as a heavy-paying one is like having a broke homeless guy walk into a grocery store and start a fuss about being treated unfairly just because he isn't getting the food that he didn't pay for.

Uh, hello? It's called capitalism, the whole U.S. is run on the system. Those of higher financial status reap benefits from the system while anyone around the poverty line gets dinged by hiked up fees. It may not have the exact same mechanics as a F2P game but the question is pretty much the same: other than maybe that person being really annoying, why wouldn't you help a paying customer? Pay-to-Play games don't need to exercise it as much but the last thing you want to do on a F2P game from the game's management side is give it a socialist mechanic because you'll start seeing rage quits pop up like roaches in your backyard...and people are less motivated to spend money on the game so your revenue from the game itself takes a pretty bad hit too.

That being said, I lie somewhere in between the top 10 $#,000 spending sore loser and the "They cost me 50 bucks towards my next game console and they ain't gettin' another cent!!!" kind of non-paying player. In the course of the event, I spent maybe around $200-300 and decided that my most reasonable goal without going literally broke and having my real life self-destruct on me would be the #11-30 tier, so I stuck to that. As of the day before the last spurt of the event, I was hovering around 15th place and for the moment at the least, I think I can maintain this tier without using anymore pudding (though I have 50 on standby should things get questionable).

Look, I'm not saying it's fair...in fact I'm sure it's extremely unfair and I can relate, albeit in a faint manner because my only reference would be when I was braving the F2P world as a high school student without allowance many years ago. But frankly that's just how F2P games run, it's the only way any company would want to take one up in the first place and not throw it away for being unprofitable. If anything, I'd say this game at the very least provides some level of equal opportunity by making it that paying just speeds up the in-game progress rather than opens up VIP doors.

You can middle finger it all you want or try to enjoy what you can, that's just how things are.

Originally Posted by ChibiKika

Hey, I resent that, alot. The idea that downright non-paying players should get the same power and assistance as a heavy-paying one is like having a broke homeless guy walk into a grocery store and start a fuss about being treated unfairly just because he isn't getting the food that he didn't pay for.

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Sorry, your post got moderated for some reason. I approved this one and removed the duplicate.

PvP are a paper-stone-sicser game with Moe-Babe-Sexy I hear. Each player start with 5 girls they have selected. Each turn players selecet a girl each if both players chousen have same type the girl with higest power win otherwise type desides winner. So with luck 5 N-girl can beat 5 SR-girls. Maybe each turn the girl that Looses is removed from game and game go on untill one player have no more girls to play.

In PvP players just need 5 SR-girls and it is not so hard to get 5 SR-girls to level 100.
Power only go up a few points for each level after 100 but that few points might matter a lot in PvP.
That might make Ex-Wild really usefull.