In the original version of this game in Japan any player who have more than one account is banned instantly.

I would like to know if is different in this version?

Using one account to just boost another account is banneable I think. Is this true ??
75% of the top player in last event was free players. It was very hard for paying players to beat players who use multi accounts.
If players can get same advantage by multi acounting as by spending money who are going to spend money?

It was newer intended that players should be able to have more than one account.

Problem in this version is that half active the players have multi accounts and I don't think thay want to loose half there players.

As they cant ban players for multi accounting they should in my opionion reduce the advantage of having multi account to a minimum.
If in last event players could not see name of the players thay attacked - they would not be able to attack themself non-stop and problem would be solved.

In first event if bosses under half you kill count didnt give EP and rewards the having some all to summon weak bosses would be of no real use.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In the original version of this game in Japan any player who have more than one account is banned instantly.

I would like to know if is different in this version?

Using one account to just boost another account is banneable I think. Is this true ??
75% of the top player in last event was free players. It was very hard for paying players to beat players who use multi accounts.
If players can get same advantage by multi acounting as by spending money who are going to spend money?

It was newer intended that players should be able to have more than one account.

Problem in this version is that half active the players have multi accounts and I don't think thay want to loose half there players.

As they cant ban players for multi accounting they should in my opionion reduce the advantage of having multi account to a minimum.
If in last event players could not see name of the players thay attacked - they would not be able to attack themself non-stop and problem would be solved.

In first event if bosses under half you kill count didnt give EP and rewards the having some all to summon weak bosses would be of no real use.

Two issues:

- Referal bonus (is legit for now to make a smurf and get it's advantage)
- Billing support sucks. If you choose one payment method Epoch (billing support for Nutaku) will stuck with it, they refuse to change payment method and once they suggested me to "make a smurf account and STFU".

multi accounts have nutaku approval or not????? i would see a official response from them

Originally Posted by chillinfar

Two issues:

- Referal bonus (is legit for now to make a smurf and get it's advantage)
- Billing support sucks. If you choose one payment method Epoch (billing support for Nutaku) will stuck with it, they refuse to change payment method and once they suggested me to "make a smurf account and STFU".

Actually, it isn't.
It's actually stated in the referal bonus gold part that using alt accounts for that will not be tolerated...

And just because you got a stupid ass in Billing Support when reporting a problem doesn't mean Nutaku as a company looks favorably upon, or even allows, the use of alt accounts.
The thing with help desks is that most of the time the people working there have absolutely no idea of what's going on in the company itself... specially regarding departments that are completely disconected from theirs.
Nutaku server could have a virus specially installed in it to melt down your PC if you are found playing an alt, and billing help desk would only get some "Please refrain from using a secondary account" hint to give their customers (if at all, seeing as it's none of that department's business how multiple accounts are handled).

I believe you just got the bad luck of getting an idiot, seeing as help desk/support people are usually trained to be able to actually tell you to STFU in such a way you'll actually end the conversation happy they took their time to tell you so.

Maybe is a bit late to say this but here it goes anyway . First i noticed during the event the atacker always win in a tie round ( same card , same level ). Based on this then is possible to win every atack in this event . You need to made a deck with all cards of the same atribute . For example a deck with 5 Rare Babes a level max and the best SR sexy maxed as a helper will always win vs any kind of moe deck.

Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde

Actually, it isn't.
It's actually stated in the referal bonus gold part that using alt accounts for that will not be tolerated...

And just because you got a stupid ass in Billing Support when reporting a problem doesn't mean Nutaku as a company looks favorably upon, or even allows, the use of alt accounts.
The thing with help desks is that most of the time the people working there have absolutely no idea of what's going on in the company itself... specially regarding departments that are completely disconected from theirs.
Nutaku server could have a virus specially installed in it to melt down your PC if you are found playing an alt, and billing help desk would only get some "Please refrain from using a secondary account" hint to give their customers (if at all, seeing as it's none of that department's business how multiple accounts are handled).

I believe you just got the bad luck of getting an idiot, seeing as help desk/support people are usually trained to be able to actually tell you to STFU in such a way you'll actually end the conversation happy they took their time to tell you so.

The issue is simple, Epoch refuses to change payment method once the customer choose one of the available. I asked both sides (Nutaku and Epoch), Nutaku just sent me again to Epoch and they answered to make an alt because they doesn't want to change it (Epoch has a finder to deactivate suscriptions and all that stuff, but Safety Pay payments are unable to do it). And i don't see something related on his ToS.

If smurfing is not allowed, they should fix this issue with Epoch because is making a problem: i want to pay and Epoch refuses to change how i can (answering the moronic smurf tip).

P.S: I suspect that the moronic move with Safety Pay is related to fees. Epoch picks $0.25 per any help with Nutaku payments, but Safety Pay eats $2-4 more due to other issues (reading ToS they share earnings with associated banks).

And finishing this, Nutaku ToS doesn't forbid alts, only forbids automated access (like bots). But as i said, the issue isn't with Nutaku but Epoch and is an issue that they should solve at B2B level.

Seems they are showing the new cards in the event gacha with the latest update. Akie Ibara and Kira Tejima are returning elites for this event apparently. Good thing i have them at 100 and 52 respectively. I need more R wilds damnit!

Only 3 new cards in total, though. And one of them isn't even visible in the event gacha, maybe it'll appear in the normal gacha?

Originally Posted by Tenhou

Seems they are showing the new cards in the event gacha with the latest update. Akie Ibara and Kira Tejima are returning elites for this event apparently. Good thing i have them at 100 and 52 respectively. I need more R wilds damnit!

Only 3 new cards in total, though. And one of them isn't even visible in the event gacha, maybe it'll appear in the normal gacha?

well since the payment method only with credit card i guess it's got nothing to do with me
will be always a free user if they don't have any other payment method
don't really like to use credit card and beside if they have something like voucher i would be gladly to buy them and collect them

Originally Posted by chillinfar

The issue is simple, Epoch refuses to change payment method once the customer choose one of the available. I asked both sides (Nutaku and Epoch), Nutaku just sent me again to Epoch and they answered to make an alt because they doesn't want to change it (Epoch has a finder to deactivate suscriptions and all that stuff, but Safety Pay payments are unable to do it). And i don't see something related on his ToS.

If smurfing is not allowed, they should fix this issue with Epoch because is making a problem: i want to pay and Epoch refuses to change how i can (answering the moronic smurf tip).

P.S: I suspect that the moronic move with Safety Pay is related to fees. Epoch picks $0.25 per any help with Nutaku payments, but Safety Pay eats $2-4 more due to other issues (reading ToS they share earnings with associated banks).

And finishing this, Nutaku ToS doesn't forbid alts, only forbids automated access (like bots). But as i said, the issue isn't with Nutaku but Epoch and is an issue that they should solve at B2B level.

I wasn't talking about ToC. Back in guards 1, somebody commented in bthe facebook page that alts could be used for farming points, and the Nutaku account answered that they woul d punish people that did so.
They even boasted that they had very good algorithms for finding such people.

Nutaku should change the way how to reward then (i.e. giving the extra when invited accounts pay his first load of cash), diminishing the risk of exploit.

And except for Safety Pay issue i have no problem to give money (they deserved it anyway), i boosted a lot on Coliseum event with only peronamin (not a good deal but helped anyway).