Originally Posted by chillinfar

The issue is simple, Epoch refuses to change payment method once the customer choose one of the available. I asked both sides (Nutaku and Epoch), Nutaku just sent me again to Epoch and they answered to make an alt because they doesn't want to change it (Epoch has a finder to deactivate suscriptions and all that stuff, but Safety Pay payments are unable to do it). And i don't see something related on his ToS.

If smurfing is not allowed, they should fix this issue with Epoch because is making a problem: i want to pay and Epoch refuses to change how i can (answering the moronic smurf tip).

P.S: I suspect that the moronic move with Safety Pay is related to fees. Epoch picks $0.25 per any help with Nutaku payments, but Safety Pay eats $2-4 more due to other issues (reading ToS they share earnings with associated banks).

And finishing this, Nutaku ToS doesn't forbid alts, only forbids automated access (like bots). But as i said, the issue isn't with Nutaku but Epoch and is an issue that they should solve at B2B level.

I wasn't talking about ToC. Back in guards 1, somebody commented in bthe facebook page that alts could be used for farming points, and the Nutaku account answered that they woul d punish people that did so.
They even boasted that they had very good algorithms for finding such people.